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World boxing to introduce mandatory sex testing.

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GargoylesofBeelzebub · 30/05/2025 18:15

worldboxing.org/news/

Guess we'll finally find out whether Imane Khelif is female or not. I suspect he will avoid the testing "out of principle" 🤭

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GetDressedYouMerryGentlemen · 05/06/2025 15:57

If so, what’s the difference between that male person and a common flasher?

Oh oh Miss, Miss I know this one Miss

It is the feelz and they are far more important than my elderly maiden Aunt (or indeed my preteen niece) being exposed to a penis for the first time in her life.

LongRangeDessertGroup · 05/06/2025 15:46

sashh · 05/06/2025 14:42

I'm glad people are enjoying it, I wasn't sure if I was just indulging myself. I don't think I will be posting on there today, I'm usually awake early so I will no doubt have more tomorrow.

I mentioned this on a different thread a few weeks ago but try this on him. I partake in a sporting activity that requires me to wear certain clothing and to do this I need to completely strip off and get changed. DH and I travel to various places in the UK, all different counties, and the clubs associated with this activity all seem to have pretty similar changing rooms.
There’s a door marked male or female and you go through that and then there’s a short corridor and another door leading to a communal changing area.

There are no individual cubicles where you can get changed privately. There’s usually 3 or 4 loos if you’re lucky, sometimes just 2, and the same number of showers.
Women of all ages are in these open-plan changing rooms, teenage girls right up to 80+ year olds.
So does your “friend” think it’s absolutely fine for a male to come into the female changing room, where teenage girls are stripping naked? That these girls are not entitled to privacy from the male gaze?
Further, should that male person also be entitled to strip naked in front of any female present?
If so, what’s the difference between that male person and a common flasher?

lcakethereforeIam · 05/06/2025 15:18

WallaceinAnderland · 05/06/2025 14:47

Shit. What are we supposed to do with all the pies now 😩

I'm glad I waited before laying in (ick!) getting any umbles. The deer of Britain can sleep safely tonight.

GailBlancheViola · 05/06/2025 14:51

Or the announcement by the British Transport Police a while back that trans women would from now on be strip searched by male officers — why? Who does that protect? It's cruelty for the sake of cruelty.

The announcement also covered women only being searched by biological female officers not men who claim to be women, hence protecting women from being sexually assaulted by men searching them.

I may be wrong but wasn't there something in it that said transwomen could request to be searched by a transwomen officer? I would bet none of them do though because it is the female ones they want to force into searching them and we all know why that is.

nauticant · 05/06/2025 14:50

I think you're after having this discussion@sashh:

WallaceinAnderland · 05/06/2025 14:47

Shit. What are we supposed to do with all the pies now 😩

sashh · 05/06/2025 14:42

I'm glad people are enjoying it, I wasn't sure if I was just indulging myself. I don't think I will be posting on there today, I'm usually awake early so I will no doubt have more tomorrow.

Greyskybluesky · 05/06/2025 14:41

lcakethereforeIam · 05/06/2025 14:00

Well this was created just in time

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp92pr5pr48o

😂

I'm really missing the laugh emoji. I think it should be reinstated just for this board!

Boiledbeetle · 05/06/2025 14:38

murasaki · 05/06/2025 13:39

Fair enough, I'm enjoying it vicariously.

As am I!

Don't give up now @sashh. I bet you can get him to blink first.

World boxing to introduce mandatory sex testing.
moto748e · 05/06/2025 14:31

nauticant · 05/06/2025 14:09

I'm beginning to wonder whether the World Boxing apology to Khelif yesterday (?) was part of an exit strategy to present to the public that Khelif had been wronged terribly in some way thus enabling him to not show up on the basis of massive upset that had been caused.

Fair point, that.

SabrinaThwaite · 05/06/2025 14:25

BettyBooper · 05/06/2025 12:13

And here we have it 😂

'Irreparable psychological damage'. 🙄 My eyes can't roll back far enough.

https://www.itv.com/news/2025-06-05/naming-imane-khelif-has-caused-irreparable-psychological-damage

On TwiX, ITV is busy hiding replies - like the one from Martina Navratilova.

World boxing to introduce mandatory sex testing.
nauticant · 05/06/2025 14:09

I'm beginning to wonder whether the World Boxing apology to Khelif yesterday (?) was part of an exit strategy to present to the public that Khelif had been wronged terribly in some way thus enabling him to not show up on the basis of massive upset that had been caused.

RedToothBrush · 05/06/2025 14:04

ThatCyanCat · 05/06/2025 13:47

It probably is psychologically damaging to be mistaken for a girl at birth, raised a girl and then find out you're not. But women arent obliged to lose their right to fair and safe sport and get their medals stolen and be knocked about by a man, and be gaslit over it, so that the man can pretend it isn't true. It's not his mental health therapy, any more than accessing naked women and girls against their will is therapy for other men.

Yes. But who has caused the psychological harm here?

The Algerian Boxing Federation who colluded with Khelif and insisted there was no problem even when there clearly was?

Or those who leaked this, after women got hurt and it damaged the intrigrity of the sport and had caused psychological and psyhical harm to women in what has become essentially a whistleblowing incident?

The Algerian Boxing Federation in theory could be blamed here. Instead they've come out swing to pass the buck and dodge their responsibilities to their own representative....

NoBinturongsHereMate · 05/06/2025 13:49

Yes, if Khelif had gone ahead with the CAS case the IBA would have been responsible for the court costs. And everything would have been on the public record - what better defence?

ThatCyanCat · 05/06/2025 13:47

It probably is psychologically damaging to be mistaken for a girl at birth, raised a girl and then find out you're not. But women arent obliged to lose their right to fair and safe sport and get their medals stolen and be knocked about by a man, and be gaslit over it, so that the man can pretend it isn't true. It's not his mental health therapy, any more than accessing naked women and girls against their will is therapy for other men.

Datun · 05/06/2025 13:45

And yes he obviously doesn't want to respond to what rights trans people don't have. Because he knows it's not right, it's a demand.

The right to access unconsenting women is the only right they want. It's the only one they're talking about. It would appear that he knows this

Datun · 05/06/2025 13:44

Or the announcement by the British Transport Police a while back that trans women would from now on be strip searched by male officers — why? Who does that protect?

fucking hell. It's impossible for him to take his eye off the man in this equation.

It fucking protects the women police officers who don't want to take part in this bloke's fantasy and be forced to touch his genitals.

I'm glad you're enjoying it *sashh. *It means your blood's up and you know what you're talking about.

I think, personally, I get a little battle weary with the same old shit.

But well done. And I honestly wouldn't hold back on calling out his misogyny. Wherever you see it, say it.

murasaki · 05/06/2025 13:39

sashh · 05/06/2025 13:36

I'm enjoying it now though

Fair enough, I'm enjoying it vicariously.

sashh · 05/06/2025 13:38

OK my lunch has arrived so I'm leaving this for now. I'm sure he is at work surrounded by his stonewall mates and they are trying to come up with arguments.

sashh · 05/06/2025 13:36

murasaki · 05/06/2025 13:35

He's not going to stop. We are now in 'don't wrestle with a pig, you both get muddy but the pig enjoys it' territory.

I'm enjoying it now though

Ereshkigalangcleg · 05/06/2025 13:36

Where is this survey of “the overwhelming majority of all female players”?

murasaki · 05/06/2025 13:35

He's not going to stop. We are now in 'don't wrestle with a pig, you both get muddy but the pig enjoys it' territory.

sashh · 05/06/2025 13:33

OK here we go again

Him: What about the right to play competitive football? The FA banned them from women's football after the EHRC ruling and the overwhelming majority of female players have said they don't want that. Some of them have gone so far as to set up their own, inclusive league.

Or the announcement by the British Transport Police a while back that trans women would from now on be strip searched by male officers — why? Who does that protect? It's cruelty for the sake of cruelty.

Don't for a second imagine that women are the only group that had to fight for their rights. The Stonewall riots came about in no small part because there was a law against wearing clothing that didn't match your birth gender. That law no longer exists and it's becaues the queer community fought and fought hard for the rights that you are now campaigning against. You're not on the side of women's rights. You're on the side of hatred and bigotry.

Me:Biological men can play football with other men. And you REALLY don't want to go into the FA's treatment of women. BTS policy protects female officers who don't want to see a penis at work. And the Stonewall riots? Really you do know it was Lesbians don't you? Gender as you probably know is a social construct damaging to all in society but particularly to women. So what rights don't trans people have? Third time of asking.

Don't forget how this started. I objected to a man beating women up, you were the one who brought up trans.

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