Yasmin Alibhai-Brown "Most rape is commited by men men"

You know why people like this concentrate on demeaning the west while ignoring negative elements of other parts of the world. It's because we let them, and they'd just get laughed at, or worse, by the rest of the world. Not only do we let them, the left positively encourages it to the point that it's become a competitive sport.

When the US military shambolicly left Afghanistan under Biden one news clip really stuck with me. A female western reporter from a left wing channel with a camera crew was reporting live on the ground. There were a bunch of taliban with AK47s in a street causing minor chaos, and the reporters were doing a story around it. One of the taliban came over to the woman reporter and told her to get off the street and stand over on the pavement. She meekly obeyed without protest or comment and her head bowed. There was no decrying toxic masculinity, no uppity in your face response, no sass, no attitude, because she knew damn well in that part of the world women get treated as lesser, and when a man with an AK47 tells a woman what to do she better obey. The camera crew being there wouldn't have changed the man's behaviour at all. The taliban guy would have shot her without a second thought if he wanted to, and it being on film wouldn't change his behaviour or ensure justice afterwards. The very worst he would have faced for shooting her dead would be a minor telling off, and probably not even that.
Those who decry the west as being the worst place in the world, dare not criticise other parts of the world, especially making that criticism from the place they are criticising for fear of what would happen to them. And yet they can shout down the west to their heart's content from anywhere in the west with zero consequences. Maybe just maybe the west isn't quite as bad as they make out, and they seem in no hurry to leave.
There's an old saying. It's easy to be a communist if you don't live in a communist country.

You certainly are not the only one! Great post.

She is an awful woman .

I thought it was just one of those stupid TV debates where they deliberately polarise an issue . It has been happening a lot in this debate since Trump was elected and sidelines the many people who are gender critical but no fans of Trump.

I started watching it - I thought it was pretty uncomfortable watching 3 middle aged white men complain about how disadvantaged they were. And I can well believe her point, that she has been paid less than male counterparts, which they completely dismissed. It’s just so unfortunate that she has latched on to the trans cause, thinking that she can further her own cause by ignoring biological reality.
His point about Lady Hale was well placed though.

As a couple have others have mentioned before she really is rude.

I watched back to count how many times she interrupted. She did it once to Andrew and then to Jeremy in the first two minutes. Then she does it again to Andrew and berates him with "can I finish" when he starts to talk.

I gave up after that

She is a useful rent-a-gob wheeled out by lazy producers who want someone to say something of a certain left wing ilk.

Ditto Nina Myskow and that bloke who used to edit the Spectator

YAB is another prime example of what I like to call the MCKEBNIs (Middle Class Kids Educated Beyond their Natural Intellect), who then gain undeserved platforms and positions of soft power due to the hoarding of social capital.

How art thee a hypocrite, Yasmin? Let me count the ways.

1. Endless handwringing about American 'imperialism' without ever acknowledging the foul and rancid way in which women are treated in extreme Islamic theocracies;
2. Endless complaints about Britain's involvement with slavery without ever mentioning a) that is was the tribal chieftains of West Africa who most enthusiastically ensured supply of slaves and b) we pretty much bankrupted ourselves ENDING the slave trade - for no other reason than we thought it morally right;
3. Endless complains about the Tories without ever once mentioning her vast privilege and asset-rich familial wealth;
4. Stood by India Knight and her rancid paedophilic partner. Enough said.

I really am fed up of poshos espousing the lefty omnicause and telling us great unwashed WC women what we should think and believe, whilst secretly piling up wealth on the backs of our disenfranchisement.

I'm sick of it. And I know I'm not the only one.

This issue so exposes many pundits who have based their careers on being apparently intelligent, knowledgeable and logical, but are in fact as dim, poorly informed and confused as the rest of us, if not more so. JAB is a good example of the type.

She, and in fact many other pundit guests, are amongst the reason I stopped tuning in. It was only marginally better when Matthew Wright had that slot, but the guests all seem to think their opinion, shouted loudly and over guests speaking, is what the audience has tuned in for. I find them all quite dogmatic and often deeply rude.

I used to quite like YAB but she has definitely become loud and egotistical in the last 5 years or so - and her dismissiveness over women rights was shocking. There is no hierarchy of discrimination where her skin colour is more important than other women’s rights and nor do trans rights trump all. I only watched because Andrew shared his clip and I was simply stunned Vine had given him an airing on is show. I won’t be tuning in again.

Goodness, she was rude.
Also it's clear that she doesn't care enough about women's rights to investigate the issue thoroughly - she's more concerned with being OTRSOH.

The positive out of this is that we are starting to see reality advocates getting on main stream TV. Not a tsunami just yet, but am hopeful.

@KnottyAuty if you are referring to the word woke in his book title, woke is not as it used to mean which is his point

I used to quite like her, but in recent years she has revealed a disappointing degree of ignorance and stupidity. The trouble is, she is accustomed to being asked her opinion. Presumably she no longer bothers to do any research.

I think the 91% talking point is a big opportunity for GCs in the public debate. The fact is that there is no data integrity in the statistics being kept regarding sex, gender identity and crime. The side that's trying to make a statistical case that TW are no more likely to commit sexual violence against women than women themselves (a claim that we know in advance to not only be unsupported by robust studies but in fact false due to the prevalence of TW in prison, and that to the contrary it may be that TW are more predisposed to sexual violence than men as a whole) is also the side that is resisting the collection of reliable sex and gender based data -- insisting that the two be conflated.

This is a contradiction that amounts to intellectual dishonesty and should be pointed out and made a lightning rod in the ongoing debate regarding amendments to the Data (Use and Access) Bill.

And of course it should be pointed out that this is just a precondition, even if it were proven that TW pose not greater risk than women, that is not sufficient justification in itself to allow them into women's spaces.

If most rapes are carried out by younger men shall we let old men in our bogs? No? TIM are MEN, all men are excluded doesn’t mean all need to be rapists though to want any subset of men dress or not to stay the fuck out. Stupid woman.

I’m so disappointed in YA-B. I remember her talking a lot of sense … apparently less so these days. She was not on top of this topic at all unfortunately. What a shame.

She was so busy slagging off white men she couldn’t get past her own bias that Andrew was much better informed than she was. She kept correcting the men when they spoke over her, but repeatedly interrupted them. I was surprised they didn’t flag that to her - but I suppose they just left her to look like an idiot instead of appearing to mansplain.

Andrew Doyle though - my word he was on fire with the facts! Spot on with his correction about lady hale who avoided saying what she thought and reported some doctors’ views! Yasmin apparently had missed that important subtlety and parroted a mangled/incorrect version. Embarrassing.

I’m now torn because I hate the title of his book - but based on this clip the content might be very good.

Erm Yasmin this might shock you but they’re all men men, yes even the ones that wear dresses 🙄

She isn't wrong that men commit the most rape but "men" also includes transwomen, who have exactly the same rate of sexual offending against women and children as any other man. That is why men, all kind of men, even those who live in a fantasy where they imagine they are women need to be kept the hell out of women's spaces, women who fail to see this reality and who pander to these men really are the most idiotic of useful idiots. A wolf in sheeps clothing is still a wolf.

No but I do have Now You’re A Man by DVDA/South Park stuck in my head now.

👀😁

OK....does anyone else have the theme song to Two and a Half Men going through their head now 😂

I remember an article she wrote some years ago, possibly in The Independent, when nude shoes were very fashionable, claiming that somehow for women of colour the shoe somehow was excluding them because it didn't match their skin tone. Confusing really, I'd have thought black was the predominant colour for shoes or it was at that time and anyway clothes and shoes don't necessarily have to match skin tones, different of course with make up. She does seem to take so much as a personal insult. Andrew Doyle was magnificently tolerant, she was appallingly reactionary, rude and screechy.

There's an argument people trying to defend indefensible positions often have no choice but to make when different groups of people are being compared. The total number of xxxx without taking into consideration the size of each group.
Normalisation, per capita, or percentage reporting where the two groups are compared by the proportion of xxxx per person in the group is the enemy and must be avoided at all costs.
Saying male men commit the largest total number of rapes is true, but is deliberately chosen to avoid mentioning the %age of rapists/sex offenders difference between male men and male women. We all know why.

It's not only in this context this slight of hand is performed. There are other societal problems like different cultural groups of men raping young women in an organised manner where this tactic is employed to try and distract and deflect from acknowleging disproportionately high offending rates among certain groups. Again, we all know why.

So what’s the other type? The type she’s referring to - I assume - must be womany men?

No, do not confuse men men with a man's man but each man's man is a man man. A Ladies Man is not a trans man, because a trans man is a woman man, and therefore a trans woman is a man woman who is no longer a man man.

Simples.