My employer has just removed single sexed toilets to be more inclusive!

I agree tbh. So many toilets now are accessed by workmen/male cleaners etc anyway. Outside of an all female work place I'm not sure completely single sex bathrooms really exist anymore. Never mind accessible bathrooms are all mainly mixed sex facilities.

Obviously noone is disputing that men can carry a level of risk towards women, we all know that. But I do think some of the language used when it comes to trans women in particular is just intentionally inflammatory and it shuts down any chance of a genuine and constructive conversation about women's safety which is what this really ultimately comes down to rather than being about trans women at all.

This is really important as disabled people in the workplace are supposed to get reasonable adjustments for toilets. With 1% of people having epilepsy, it is likely that there will be at least one person who will need door gaps for safety reasons in a large workforce. And in schools. Which mean single sex designs.
Thats not even factoring in all the other medical conditions like diabetes, heart conditions etc. There’s a great emotional load families carry with them when a member has a health condition and there’s extra barriers to their safety that could be avoided. It’s not just the event itself, it’s the anticipation and factoring in risks.

I am not worried for myself. It’s just very unpleasant.
I think it’s most unpleasant in say a work office situation when it’s a colleague.

They are more likely to be caught if they are seen coming out of or going into the ladies though. They are also less likely to give it a go.
We can’t protect ourselves from everything but we can at least have a damn good try.
Sharing toilets offers 0 protection

This is a conversation about her work Loo. Not a public toilet. And lineman is an unmitigated weirdo.

If you are worried about a criminal man putting cameras in the loo then don’t use any public toilet. A women’s sign is not a barrier to criminality. It just guarantees all the videos will be of women.

it could be done by a male cleaner, handyman or plumber. A colleague who comes in early or late or just slipping in unnoticed.

You can try and make the design as streamlined as possible to make even a ‘screw’ noticeable. But yes I agree.

You have no idea....my daughter has epilepsy and is quite likely to have a seizure. We don't let her use disabled toilets on her own because they are fully enclosed. Medical incidents are not that uncommon.

"Even if they are a completely modern lovely self contained rooms with an integral whb if men can use them they can just as easily install cameras."

The type of man inclined to put a camera in a toilet will not be dissuaded from doing so because of a sign on the door.

That’s at home, this is work.

We have a seat down thing at home but obviously the op is posting about work.

Even if they are a completely modern lovely self contained rooms with an integral whb if men can use them they can just as easily install cameras.
You can even get cameras that look like screws these days.
So short of going into a toilet with a detection device we have no way of knowing if there are cameras watching and recording us

Nice. Maybe you can use this op

Are you sure?

I rarely see the seat lifted in single sex facilities.

Men are more likely to leave it up.

They’re lockable but not secure.

(new designs at least)

Employers forget women are very vulnerable when using mixed sex toilets, not least because men can put cameras in them. I’d feel very vulnerable using toilets that allow men in them and that’s before we start talking about the wee everywhere!

Lockable cubicles don’t protect us.!

I believe it does yes. Children of both sexes of deprived backgrounds particularly.

you have invented a trans boogeyman where there isn’t one.

You need to get on X and follow Libs Of Tik Tok and Graham Linehan, they're very good at bringing this kind of material into the glorious sunlight.

What has that got to do with the OP? She is talking about three single sex individual self contained toilets.

you have invented a trans boogeyman where there isn’t one.

you cannot ban people you don’t like from the public sphere. No one is arguing here that they should share a single sex space with you.

I'm not talking about all men, I'm referring to the men who dress in frocks to gain access to women's toilets so as to practise their onanism.

Did you not see all the protests after the supreme court ruling? Plenty of transwomen standing to pee on display there

Spotless public toilets only exist where people are employed to inspect and clean them, perhaps hourly or more often. This rarely happens in small workplaces.

Because you do not have the right to say men cannot use a single person toilet.

sorry but that is absurd. Yes group single sex spaces are fine.

you might as well start arguing for sex segregation In the public sphere if we are going to imply that anytime a man is alone in with a closed door he is going to wank.

is this really what you all think of the men you know?

Does someone’s economic situation impact on the likelihood of them being attacked in a public facility, @Keeptoiletssafe?

If so, that’s interesting.

@MrsSkylerWhite you are not in a more vulnerable category for toilet design. You haven’t eliminated risk but from your posts it sounds like you are healthy and affluent. If you are heterosexual man too you would be in the least risk category for harm coming to you in a toilet outside your home.

But women lift the seat to hover and not get wee on the toilet seat.

it is already single sex loo. Unless it’s a yrinal a toilet facilities is not sexed! It human waste receptacle.

it far more efficient for 3 single use unisex loos that can work for whoever needs them at the time than it is to have them separated by sex

especially if you are not trying to run afoul of changes in law.