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Sarah Jane Baker leads topless protest in London, and threatens named women

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ArabellaScott · 25/05/2025 23:04

Another topless protest today.

SJB with a megaphone:

'JK Rowling - be afraid of us - Kellie Jay Keen - be afraid'
'...you will reap what you sow, and you risk encouraging and reaping the result you seem eager to provoke.'

https://x.com/GerryKeogh_/status/1926622168000983489

https://x.com/GerryKeogh_/status/1926622168000983489

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MusettasWaltz · 29/09/2025 22:14

MistyGreenAndBlue · 29/09/2025 12:45

Also the whole gay thing : Putin's a smart and obvs but if that is what happened, I wonder if he's thinking it would be a huge deal the way it would be in Russia when being gay hasn't been a scandal here for ages...
Remember Philip Schofield? It wouldn't be that he was gay. It would be about him lying, cheating and using prostitutes. He's married with kids. That's a lot of years of lying if it were true. Although, I too, doubt that it is.

The pro-hunting Tory owned Country Squire magazine had been foully hyping this up.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=countrysquire.co.uk/2025/05/24/tackling-britains-rent-boy-menace/&ved=2ahUKEwiKzdyj8f6PAxXQUkEAHZiyNFEQFnoECCQQAQ&usg=AOvVaw38r62c9tFCVg-Z01jvH7v5

I don't think most people believe this, surely? But I worry that too many, esp the disaffected, are putting store in online rumours.

I agree outcry would not just be about homophobia, though like you I also doubt it's true.

https://www.google.com/url?opi=89978449&rct=j&sa=t&source=web&url=https%3A%2F%2Fcountrysquire.co.uk%2F2025%2F05%2F24%2Ftackling-britains-rent-boy-menace%2F&usg=AOvVaw38r62c9tFCVg-Z01jvH7v5&ved=2ahUKEwiKzdyj8f6PAxXQUkEAHZiyNFEQFnoECCQQAQ

MistyGreenAndBlue · 29/09/2025 12:45

MusettasWaltz · 28/09/2025 10:38

Yes, I saw that vile man Galloway pushing this....and we know he has a lot of dodgy connections...

Also the whole gay thing : Putin's a smart and obvs but if that is what happened, I wonder if he's thinking it would be a huge deal the way it would be in Russia when being gay hasn't been a scandal here for ages...

The whole narrative seems ridiculous, some were saying he fled to stay with Lord Ali for a bit because of a 'lovechild' others were saying Lord Ali was his lover!

I hope these fine fellows get a hefty prison sentence & whoever put them up to it is exposed.

Also the whole gay thing : Putin's a smart and obvs but if that is what happened, I wonder if he's thinking it would be a huge deal the way it would be in Russia when being gay hasn't been a scandal here for ages...
Remember Philip Schofield? It wouldn't be that he was gay. It would be about him lying, cheating and using prostitutes. He's married with kids. That's a lot of years of lying if it were true. Although, I too, doubt that it is.

MusettasWaltz · 28/09/2025 10:38

hihelenhi · 28/09/2025 10:34

Yes,I believe paying low level citizens (or ones who can be bribed) to firebomb is a method that has been used by Russian operatives elsewhere in Eastern Europe, which makes me think that was likely the case here. I think the fact they were Ukrainian rentboys (as seems obvious from their timelines) was designed to capitalise on the gay rumours flying around at that time, and was happily spread by Starmer's enemies (like George Galloway) and the Reform crowd. Note they also spread the affair and lovechild rumours - well, which is it? A Boris-like shagger or secretly gay? Both? Neither?

I don't like Starmer and think his judgement as PM has been appalling - I do also think he likes to attempt a good coverup - but like many, I really wouldn't have given a damn if he was gay. I think it's unlikely.

Yes, I saw that vile man Galloway pushing this....and we know he has a lot of dodgy connections...

Also the whole gay thing : Putin's a smart and obvs but if that is what happened, I wonder if he's thinking it would be a huge deal the way it would be in Russia when being gay hasn't been a scandal here for ages...

The whole narrative seems ridiculous, some were saying he fled to stay with Lord Ali for a bit because of a 'lovechild' others were saying Lord Ali was his lover!

I hope these fine fellows get a hefty prison sentence & whoever put them up to it is exposed.

hihelenhi · 28/09/2025 10:34

MusettasWaltz · 28/09/2025 08:43

There's also lots of wild rumours circulating that he had a lovechild and secret injunction to hide. Frankly at the moment I think it's more likely people like maybe Putin trying to discredit him

Yes,I believe paying low level citizens (or ones who can be bribed) to firebomb is a method that has been used by Russian operatives elsewhere in Eastern Europe, which makes me think that was likely the case here. I think the fact they were Ukrainian rentboys (as seems obvious from their timelines) was designed to capitalise on the gay rumours flying around at that time, and was happily spread by Starmer's enemies (like George Galloway) and the Reform crowd. Note they also spread the affair and lovechild rumours - well, which is it? A Boris-like shagger or secretly gay? Both? Neither?

I don't like Starmer and think his judgement as PM has been appalling - I do also think he likes to attempt a good coverup - but like many, I really wouldn't have given a damn if he was gay. I think it's unlikely.

teawamutu · 28/09/2025 08:54

MusettasWaltz · 28/09/2025 08:43

There's also lots of wild rumours circulating that he had a lovechild and secret injunction to hide. Frankly at the moment I think it's more likely people like maybe Putin trying to discredit him

Perfectly possible, he's definitely an asset to Ukraine.

A recent PM didn't even know how many kids he had, so I do wonder whether that would be a deal-breaker these days.

MusettasWaltz · 28/09/2025 08:43

teawamutu · 28/09/2025 08:34

I'm next to certain that this is complete and utter bullshit.

I've no inside knowledge at all on Starmer, mind. But decades of observing the British state - and especially the last decade - make me incredibly dubious that a decent cover-up would be possible. Think of the dozens of people who'd know the truth. Think of the absolute hash frequently made of keeping info that they're meant to keep private, private. No way.

There's also lots of wild rumours circulating that he had a lovechild and secret injunction to hide. Frankly at the moment I think it's more likely people like maybe Putin trying to discredit him

teawamutu · 28/09/2025 08:34

MusettasWaltz · 28/09/2025 06:10

If he IS closeted gay or bi why couldn't he have been honest and honourable? The last thing we need is another Huw Edwards.

I'm sure we've had at least one gay PM before. Shame if the first outed one is a rent-boy-using cheat.

I'm next to certain that this is complete and utter bullshit.

I've no inside knowledge at all on Starmer, mind. But decades of observing the British state - and especially the last decade - make me incredibly dubious that a decent cover-up would be possible. Think of the dozens of people who'd know the truth. Think of the absolute hash frequently made of keeping info that they're meant to keep private, private. No way.

MusettasWaltz · 28/09/2025 06:10

If he IS closeted gay or bi why couldn't he have been honest and honourable? The last thing we need is another Huw Edwards.

I'm sure we've had at least one gay PM before. Shame if the first outed one is a rent-boy-using cheat.

MusettasWaltz · 28/09/2025 06:06

askmenow · 26/05/2025 09:35

Because the BBC don’t report the inconvenient truths. This won’t fit their, or our Governments narrative.
I mean have you heard anything at all on MSM about the rent boys that fire bombed the PM’s previous properties and car.
Did nobody wonder why two Ukrainians and a Romanian had details of Starmers previous homes until you look into their SM.

He and his cohort have an iron fist on what’s broadcast.

What? What are you trying to say- do you mean that Starmer is closeted gay or bi & cheating on his wife with migrant rent boys??

Certainly didn't have THAT on my 2025 bingo card....☹️

Unless they had some other motive?

Seriestwo · 10/06/2025 16:08

I see that Big Heather and Sophie Sparkles are going to be interviewing Sarah Jane for their podcast. That’ll be enlightening.

JellySaurus · 07/06/2025 22:25

Vulnerable and harmless, don't want to draw attention to themselves, lovely and kind people who wouldn't hurt a fly, these are all completely irrelevant arguments. It does not matter one iota if Tricia Izzy Mann is all of those things, it doesn't matter if you are comfortable sharing a changing room with Tricia; if Tricia is male his presence excludes many women.

ArabellaScott · 07/06/2025 21:33

This chap seems to have various disorders, and is not particularly representative!

Again, vulnerable and marginalised; sure. This doesn't mean harmless and it doesn't mean women have to accept whatever the vulnerable and marginalised men say they want and need.

Where the idea came from that because someone is vulnerable and marginalised we must therefore acquiesce to their demands I do not know.

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thirdfiddle · 07/06/2025 21:12

Oh maaaaate. Another one for the bucket of yuck I have no interest in sharing any women-only space with this fetish-addled man.

How did this generation get so damned stupid that they post their fetishes on the internet for all to see attached to their identifiable real life selves? Perhaps all the validation is not good for them.

BezMills · 07/06/2025 20:05

He sounds about 22. A massive pile of money, is basically about 30k (if 25k would be most of it, which is the implication). That seems like a lot, (if you're 22) but no it won't last very long at all, and he's wise to live cheaply if he doesn't want to have to earn a living any time soon.

He sounds an absolute nightmare and chaos agent. The kind of person I run a mile to avoid.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 07/06/2025 14:20

WeetabixBananaHipsterFFS · 07/06/2025 13:34

All I can see is a bunch of highly disordered individuals being enabled.

It’s all most people see, and why they don’t want to get involved.

SlackJawedDisbeliefXY · 07/06/2025 14:17

I could probably drop £25,000 on bottom surgery tomorrow if I wanted. Snip. Done.

No risk, no physical recovery time, no mental recovery time - it's like buying a new car.

WeetabixBananaHipsterFFS · 07/06/2025 14:10

TheOtherRaven · 07/06/2025 13:44

I believe the public have been instructed to perceive this as fragile beauty and pathos.

But it's somewhat like a large bearded man instructing me to perceive him as a woman and get undressed with him or else, because it's his right.

Sir John Everett Millais could only dream of such muses; imagine what would’ve been possible were he alive now. It’s nothing short of a tragedy.

TheOtherRaven · 07/06/2025 13:44

LondonPapa · 07/06/2025 13:10

Why do these men take to protesting with their fake
tits out? Did they think the femen protests in Eastern Europe applied to them? It is utterly disgusting and disgraceful behaviour.

I believe the public have been instructed to perceive this as fragile beauty and pathos.

But it's somewhat like a large bearded man instructing me to perceive him as a woman and get undressed with him or else, because it's his right.

WeetabixBananaHipsterFFS · 07/06/2025 13:34

All I can see is a bunch of highly disordered individuals being enabled.

lcakethereforeIam · 07/06/2025 13:30

'I started an OnlyFans a year or so ago. It was the only way I felt justified to spend money on myself, work expenditures, but I couldn't keep it up.'

Keep what up? Don't tell me I don't want to know😳

LondonPapa · 07/06/2025 13:10

Why do these men take to protesting with their fake
tits out? Did they think the femen protests in Eastern Europe applied to them? It is utterly disgusting and disgraceful behaviour.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 07/06/2025 12:54

ArabellaScott · 07/06/2025 12:37

Another post:

'Right, I am about to write about sex. Cos fuck it. A little while ago I wrote about an event I was doing, and excited about doing, and everyone lost their shit. Well, not everyone, one person lost their shit. One person who has now decided to spend all their free time stoking hatred for me because, apparently, having hobbies and being excited about them is ‘grotesque.’

Said person has now agreed that, apparently, it’s fine if it’s your event that is sexual. For example; anyone who does underwear protests is apparently fine, because they’re meant to be sexual, but apparently if you come to other people’s events and are ‘sexual’ then it’s bad. Yet the event I did, that wasn’t sexual in anyway, was my fucking event.

It’s rather funny. A post I made, knowing that it would upset bigots—and specifically saying I would get backlash for, has done exactly what I knew it would. I knew I shouldn’t do it, because a few bigots who hate me would use it against me, but I thought it would be an interesting litmus test for our community.

Well, we finally got our backlash, I got a DM saying I was banned from We Stand for the Animals. Why? Well there’s a list of reasons. One is not wearing black at an event, which I am sure was thrown in for good measure, but since I wasn’t the only one that clearly wasn’t relevant.

A second was because I asked for a bigot to be banned from WSTFA. I believe their response was that they don’t want to ban people because it harms the movement and we should care about the animals, not people’s opinions.

And the third was because I, apparently, have hobbies and write about them on the internet.'

What’s his position on rabbit sanctuaries I wonder?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 07/06/2025 12:53

ArabellaScott · 07/06/2025 12:41

I'm now starting to wonder if this person is actually satire.

'I don’t even know what I fucking want. I started wearing a dog harness every single fucking day just because I didn’t like that people were so cruel to the furry community. Now I fucking sleep in it. I don’t fucking know why. I am a fucking grown ass woman trying to work out what the fuck I am even into'

Readers Ed: Actually “Jester” was a man.

Pleasantsort · 07/06/2025 12:50

I feel really sorry for that poor wee Jack Russell. 😭

ArabellaScott · 07/06/2025 12:49

More:

'People call me egotistical and selfish all the time. I have a massive pile of money in the bank. I am living off that money, spending it as carefully as I can so that I can do as much activism as I can for as long as I can.

I could probably drop £25,000 on bottom surgery tomorrow if I wanted. Snip. Done.

It would probably mean I had to stop doing activism full time and get a job. It would probably mean I did a shit ton less activism—but I could.

But I can't. That amount of money could keep a sanctuary going for a year. That amount of money could keep me going for years.

Everything is a hideous cost-benefit analysis about the utilitarian benefit to the construction of the utopia. I hate it. I hate the fact I don't get to have anything nice. I don't let myself have anything nice.

I'm still running in trainers with holes in the bottom. Almost everything I own is a hand-me-down. I will never have bottom surgery.'
...

'I started an OnlyFans a year or so ago. It was the only way I felt justified to spend money on myself, work expenditures, but I couldn't keep it up.'

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