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rebmacesrevda · 25/05/2025 08:59

She's in denial, and she's the only person who can get her out of it. Everyone knows gender ideology is a load of shit, so in order to "believe" in it, a person has got to lie to themselves. That level of self-deception takes some doing, so to undo it would be very psychologically damaging to her.

BunfightBetty · 25/05/2025 08:59

Hillsaremyhappyplace · 25/05/2025 08:54

NS’s inability to reflect and listen to others has been her downfall. Not just on this. Sad really. And hugely frustrating for the rest of us!

I’d say that is the defining aspect of her personality and ultimately became her Achilles heel.

Spamtomatoes · 25/05/2025 08:58

I was thinking about this the other day. People who have fought for trans rights are psychologically boxed in. If they admit they were wrong they have to admit to themselves, and others, that were advancing the interests of rapists and sex offenders, and voyeurs and men who enjoy exerting power and control over women. That would have to admit that they were assisting such men to force women to submit to them.

It’s too psychologically threatening for most people to do this. Someone like Sturgeon will never do this. It would take a moral and intellectual courage she clearly lacks.

She’s never going to seriously look into the genuinely feminist counter arguments to her pro-TRA position. It’s too scary for her to do so. She doesn’t want to accept she was wrong. Look what she would have to admit to herself to do so. It would threaten her entire understanding of herself. She’s much rather continue deluding herself.

And thats even before we get onto medically transitioning children and young people.

BunfightBetty · 25/05/2025 08:57

She’s always confused stubborn and unrelenting intransigence, in the face of all evidence, for a personality, so I’m entirely unsurprised she’s still got her mind closed on this. She won’t change. She sees it as a badge of honour to stick to her guns come what may, and doesn’t understand that an intelligent person is able to remain open to contrary information and opinions, and is able to flexibly change their own when new compelling evidence is available.

Hillsaremyhappyplace · 25/05/2025 08:57

Was she not investigated for professional misconduct when she was a lawyer so she’s hardly an expert legal mind!

www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1418932/Nicola-sturgeon-news-snp-latest-sturgeon-legal-career/amp

Hillsaremyhappyplace · 25/05/2025 08:54

NS’s inability to reflect and listen to others has been her downfall. Not just on this. Sad really. And hugely frustrating for the rest of us!

Igmum · 25/05/2025 08:53

I think our Nicola is a true believer. It honestly baffles me how she can simply not see the harm done to women, children, gays and lesbians but it looks like she really can’t.

SinnerBoy · 25/05/2025 08:52

God, Nicola! You are wilfully obtuse!

To paraphrase the redoubtable Doctor Hunter...

Cosmosforbreakfast · 25/05/2025 08:44

Sturgeon, whose memoir Frankly is due to be released this August, also spoke about the way she had been treated as a woman in politics.

She's happy to keep throwing women under the bus so TRAs will buy her book. No one else is going to.

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 25/05/2025 08:17

‘notice me ! Notice me! Notice me! I’m still important , Immstill influential, I’m really beloved by the Scottish People! I am ! I I I AM!’

Yea, yes dear. Now put your toys away tidily.

mrshoho · 25/05/2025 08:14

The former first minister said she would always be an “ally of the trans community” and said politicians would need to legislate if “trans lives become impossible to live”

I feel enraged reading this too. How the fuck would trans lives become impossible to live? As usual no thought or regard to the lives of women from Sturgeon.

OldCrone · 25/05/2025 07:57

“Many of those who are on the other side [of the issue] say it is all about protecting women,” she told the festival.

“Isn’t it ironic that I have probably had more misogynistic abuse as a result of this issue than on any other issue in my entire political career. Go figure.”

I'd like to see some examples of what she means by misogynistic abuse and where it's coming from.

Is she suggesting that this misogynistic abuse is being dished out by women trying to protect their rights?

When JK Rowling called her a destroyer of women's rights was that misogynistic abuse?

Justwrong68 · 25/05/2025 07:53

myplace · 25/05/2025 07:01

I am struggling to be honest. I’ve had to stop looking because it’s enraging. One of the things that’s upsetting is the widespread condemnation of women as regressive bigots- and how individuals will cram that accusation onto people they know well regardless! As in, friends and family members who know you and have seen you being proactively liberal and accepting of everything else will happily sneer at your bigotry about this one issue rather than interrogate their own beliefs.

Absolutely. I’m quite depressed about friends and family who’ve no good argument but assume you’ve switched to the right because you’re fighting what is essentially a men’s rights movement. I only have a handful of friends I can talk to without judgement and I’m using them like a hotline!

IcyPlumOtter · 25/05/2025 07:39

This quote is a good one; “They need to read the judgment, obtain their own legal advice and ignore the former first minister, whose contributions on this subject remain as unhelpful as ever.”

myplace · 25/05/2025 07:01

I am struggling to be honest. I’ve had to stop looking because it’s enraging. One of the things that’s upsetting is the widespread condemnation of women as regressive bigots- and how individuals will cram that accusation onto people they know well regardless! As in, friends and family members who know you and have seen you being proactively liberal and accepting of everything else will happily sneer at your bigotry about this one issue rather than interrogate their own beliefs.

Hermiaxx · 25/05/2025 06:57

Thank goodness for the voices of reason from Sue Smith and MBM!

The chaos created from the death knells of this madness is a sight to behold! They are never going to admit defeat - but am comforted by the knowledge that the fish flapping about on dry land does eventually die!

BlueEyedBogWitch · 25/05/2025 05:08

“Massively overinterpreted”?

I guess it must be, if it includes her.

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