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GallantKumquat · 26/05/2025 01:16

@Hillsaremyhappyplace Was she not investigated for professional misconduct when she was a lawyer so she’s hardly an expert legal mind!

What's extrodinary about this case is that it involves the failure of Sturgeon to competently carry out her professional duties defending a battered wife from her husband, including: "not seeking a court order against her violent partner who was stalking her and failing to mail a legal aid application – despite claiming that she had done so."

Since the complaint was investigated and not upheld and the details of the findings aren't now known -- the client was reimbursed for her charges as a 'good will' gesture and Sturgeon left practice several weeks after the findings were published, one can only speculate at cause of the apparent failure. But one obvious potential factor would be a certain motivational blind spot in instances of protecting vulnerable women.

Hillsaremyhappyplace · 25/05/2025 23:22

Oh dear, what an absolute shambles. Ashamed to be Scottish, the state of the SNP.

CiaoMeow · 25/05/2025 22:29

Ghastly creature.

rebmacesrevda · 25/05/2025 22:28

@RealFeminist

I want you to start a new thread, titled "AH'M WEE NIPPY. AMA."

rebmacesrevda · 25/05/2025 22:22

Humza seems to be suffering from Victim Syndrome. There's alot of it about nowadays. As for Sturgeon... Who knows? Maybe she's got a male brain.

Igneococcus · 25/05/2025 22:18

mrshoho · 25/05/2025 22:15

Humza appears even more confused if that could be possible. What is it with that lot in the SNP?

He comes across as utterly confused.

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mrshoho · 25/05/2025 22:15

Humza appears even more confused if that could be possible. What is it with that lot in the SNP?

RealFeminist · 25/05/2025 22:14

CRITICEL THINKING BUTTERS NAE PARSNIPS

SidewaysOtter · 25/05/2025 22:10

What the fuck is wrong with this woman?

Why does she so wilfully refuse to see any point of view other than her own? Has she taken on board none of the criticism that’s been levelled at her? Has she really got the critical thinking skills of a parsnip?

<and breathe>

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RealFeminist · 25/05/2025 19:05

IF BIG FRANK WANTS TAE BE BIG FRANCINE WE SHOULD WELCOME HER INTAE OOR TOILETS WI OPEN AIRMS

OldCrone · 25/05/2025 18:02

NPET · 25/05/2025 17:11

I suspect that's the sort of thing she means. Not misogynistic, just anti- HER, which she considers misogynistic because she's still [?] a woman.

I'm surprised that she thinks that's worse than the stuff quoted in the Herald article I linked to. A woman calling her a destroyer of women's rights is apparently worse than death threats and the other abuse (from men) in those quotes.

Brefugee · 25/05/2025 17:53

One of the comments is spot on: Well, she is right in a way-the definition of "woman" has been over-interpreted, just not in the way she thinks.

TheKeatingFive · 25/05/2025 17:47

I do not understand why she is so determined to die on this hill. I can only conclude that somebody, somewhere is offering her big rewards for all this.

NPET · 25/05/2025 17:11

OldCrone · 25/05/2025 07:57

“Many of those who are on the other side [of the issue] say it is all about protecting women,” she told the festival.

“Isn’t it ironic that I have probably had more misogynistic abuse as a result of this issue than on any other issue in my entire political career. Go figure.”

I'd like to see some examples of what she means by misogynistic abuse and where it's coming from.

Is she suggesting that this misogynistic abuse is being dished out by women trying to protect their rights?

When JK Rowling called her a destroyer of women's rights was that misogynistic abuse?

I suspect that's the sort of thing she means. Not misogynistic, just anti- HER, which she considers misogynistic because she's still [?] a woman.

WallaceinAnderland · 25/05/2025 16:40

Quote from The Telegraph:

"The former first minister did not dispute that the court was correct that the definition of woman in the Equality Act 2010 was based on biological sex."

Thelnebriati · 25/05/2025 10:31

There was a study (conducted by Harvard?) that showed people meet their social needs using two strategies; they need to feel liked, and they need to be perceived as right.
(Feminists tend to rely on facts and worry less about being likeable, but we are probably outliers.)
Some ideologies meet both needs. People who subscribe to them are unlikely to be able to change their minds since it means breaking two connections, and admitting the people they called enemies were right all along.

Cosmosforbreakfast · 25/05/2025 10:28

She knows well she's wrong, she knows well the harm that's been done to women and children. She doesn't care.

Arran2024 · 25/05/2025 09:58

She is in a bubble where everyone thinks the same. She doesn't strike me as the sort who has a bunch of mates with daughters, who pops into the local shopping centre and uses the toilets. She is in an elite bubble and cannot imagine how the rest of us live.

ShockedandStunnedRepeatedly · 25/05/2025 09:16

It’s well seen she never made it as a lawyer herself.

Spamtomatoes · 25/05/2025 09:13

And let’s face it. Sturgeon’s only success has been managing to keep getting re-elected in a country without an effective opposition party. She hasn’t managed to deliver on any significant policy area.

At the end of the day, Sturgeon was skilled at marketing herself but poor on delivery in government.

I don’t think she will go down well in history.

I don’t like Alex Salmond, and I’m a Unionist, but Alex Salmond was by far the better politician. He took the SNP from a minority to majority party, and he grew the independence movement to a point where he came close to achieving his ultimate goal.

NS road the coat tails of his success in growing the independence movement, which kept her in power. But failed to deliver anything but small, easy wins and none of the big change Scotland needed.

Tallyrand · 25/05/2025 09:11

It's funny people like NS getting so angry at the SC ruling on one hand, but insisting on the other it doesn't change anything.

There's not a hypocrisy that woman wouldn't stick to as long as she's being heard.

File under: ignore.

WhatterySquash · 25/05/2025 09:10

Also when you’re entrenched like this, one way to delude yourself you’re right is to make out you’re some kind of extra-heroic last one standing who’ll go down with the righteous ship. ‘I’ll be an ally forever!” Don’t think about what that means in terms of medicalised harm to gay and autistic kids and endangering and shutting out women. Just lap up the adulation of the other believers.

OldCrone · 25/05/2025 09:03

I've tried to find out what misogynistic abuse Sturgeon has received on this issue, but I've failed. For context, I found this article from 2017, with examples of misogynistic abuse she had received back then, which makes for pretty unpleasant reading.

https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/15150383.police-investigating-horrific-catalogue-threats-abuse-nicola-sturgeon/

Apparently, the misogynistic abuse she's received from women concerned about their rights is worse. I find this hard to believe.

Police investigating horrific catalogue of threats and abuse against Nicola Sturgeon

https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/15150383.police-investigating-horrific-catalogue-threats-abuse-nicola-sturgeon

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