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TheOtherRaven · 28/05/2025 09:10

Mine too if asked about women only ever talks about trans people (even if they weren't mentioned or relevant), and by 'trans people' he actually means 'men'.

They can't engage with thought or points or argument, they just recite the catechism. It's infuriating and insulting, and quite worrying that muppets like this with such obvious bias and critical thinking issues (and problems with women) got into positions of responsibility.

Men with trans identity should not 'enjoy' a right to access non consenting,distressed women in vulnerable states, that's insane. It's morally fucked.

Vegemiteandhoneyontoast · 28/05/2025 09:02

Vegemiteandhoneyontoast · 25/05/2025 13:02

I wrote to my MP a couple of days ago via the Sex Matters site and am interested to see what, if any, response I get. He's a Lib Dem so I'm prepared for anything.

I had a response and it's worse than expected. Doesn't mention women at all.

Here it is. If anyone can think of a good reply I'd be glad because I'm too cross to think straight.

"Thank you very much for writing to me to share your concerns about the recent Supreme Court ruling.

Everyone should have the freedom to live their life as the person they are, secure in the knowledge that their fundamental rights will be protected. That is a fundamental value of the Liberal Democrats and it is one I hold very dear. I respect and will always stand up for the rights of all LGBTQ+ people.

I am really concerned that many trans and non-binary people in our country are feeling worried, fearful or uncertain after the ruling, and questioning whether they will be able to enjoy the same rights as their peers.

We absolutely must remember that this situation is not about political hypotheticals - this is about real people who are now worried, uncertain and frightened as they go about their day-to-day lives.

For too long, trans people have been targeted by divisive culture wars. Hate crimes recorded against trans people have more than doubled in the last five years. This is on top of the deeply entrenched structural inequalities that trans people still face in many aspects of life.

Many questions remain about the ruling’s practical implications and my colleagues and I are pushing the government to provide clarity - with new legislation if necessary - to ensure that everyone’s rights are protected. This must include ensuring the trans community feels safe. My colleague Christine Jardine, who is the Liberal Democrat Women and Equalities spokesperson has written to the minister asking for a meeting to discuss this.

It is vital that this judgement is not used to further divisive culture wars or to justify rolling back anyone’s rights. I and my colleagues in the Liberal Democrats will oppose any attempt to do this. As you may have seen, the Liberal Democrats’ reaffirmed our commitment to tackling these issues and supporting LGBTQ+ rights at our Spring Conference this year. You can read more about our updated policy here:

https://www.libdems.org.uk/news/article/free-to-be-who-you-are

The way in which some politicians and parts of the media have stoked up this toxic and hostile debate around the rights of trans people is unacceptable. We need to get past that and finally have a positive and genuine good-faith conversation about ensuring everyone’s safety and dignity."

Delphin · 28/05/2025 07:58

❤️ JKR

CapitalAtRisk · 27/05/2025 20:55

The fox batterer and the rent boy beater deserve each other

moto748e · 27/05/2025 19:56

This sounds like a job for Mr Menno!

ThatCyanCat · 27/05/2025 19:51

Every day, he wears a kimono (kimono),
All that money, where'd it go, now...

murasaki · 27/05/2025 19:30

So do I.

Joly Joly Joly Joly
Joly Joly Jolyon Maugham
He comes and goes
He comes and goes

Sleeping would be easy if the fox wasn't in his dreams
He hears it scream, he hears it scream

ThatCyanCat · 27/05/2025 19:28

How I wish Jolyon would come and go. Every day is like survival.

Waitwhat23 · 27/05/2025 19:17

Argh! Now I've got Karma Chameleon in my head!

SionnachRuadh · 27/05/2025 19:11

aylis · 27/05/2025 17:13

So is he opposed to free speech, or opposed to the limitations of free speech? Because this looks like he'll criticise either and both depending on what suits him at the time.

Jolyon having no conviction, I'm shocked.

Not only is he a man without conviction, he's a man who doesn't know how to sell a contradiction.

moto748e · 27/05/2025 17:34

You snooze... 😃

BezMills · 27/05/2025 17:21

moto748e · 27/05/2025 17:18

Give it time...

Beat me to it moto

moto748e · 27/05/2025 17:18

Give it time...

aylis · 27/05/2025 17:13

DrudgeJedd · 26/05/2025 16:50

Billy big balls scared to step outside of his blue echo chamber

So is he opposed to free speech, or opposed to the limitations of free speech? Because this looks like he'll criticise either and both depending on what suits him at the time.

Jolyon having no conviction, I'm shocked.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 27/05/2025 10:40

GenderlessVoid · 26/05/2025 12:41

Frankly, although I think being banned from women's spaces is a lot of it, a significant portion is just being told no. By women.

I think that's a huge part of it. He can't believe the Supreme Court sided with women, and ruled that they have a right to say "no"" to men. He's furious that mere women were right about the Equality Act and he was wrong. I think he's also pissed that JKR has competent lawyers: How dare she defend her own rights against his male entitlement? That's bullying!

I think his rage at her lawyers is funny. It's like he knows that her lawyers are more competent than he is and there's nothing he can do about it.

Precisely.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 27/05/2025 10:28

SionnachRuadh · 26/05/2025 20:19

His business setup is a very curious one. GLP is a non-profit but not a charity. Jolyon himself is a KC but not a barrister. A cynic might think the whole thing was set up to avoid any meaningful regulation.

Excellent point.

PetaltotheMedal · 27/05/2025 07:45

He really believes he is above the law.

Don't they all.

Brainworm · 26/05/2025 20:57

fromorbit · 26/05/2025 20:03

I have been keeping an eye on the GLP's fundraiser for the Supreme Court challenge and despite all the publicity in the last weeks it has slowed down considerably. It raised huge sums when it started in the first 10 days.

April 25th launched

May 6th - 361,869
May 16th - 387,292
May 18th - 393,560
May 26th - £406,867

It looks like they have run out of easy money now. It has now been a month since it started and besides a lot of publicity they have done nothing.

He was hot off the blocks following the SC ruling, positioning the fundraiser as the opportunity to show support for the trans community’. TRAs started posting how uplifting it was to see the total go up and how this proved that people were, en masse, against the ruling. The press were promoting lots of stories about how ‘the most oppressed’ were sadder than ever. Lots of people contributed ‘in solidarity’. It was always the case that once the media storm died down, the cash flow would diminish.

SionnachRuadh · 26/05/2025 20:19

His business setup is a very curious one. GLP is a non-profit but not a charity. Jolyon himself is a KC but not a barrister. A cynic might think the whole thing was set up to avoid any meaningful regulation.

fromorbit · 26/05/2025 20:07

mrshoho · 26/05/2025 18:10

I have thought of reporting a concern to The Bar Standards Board. He is posting this drivel using his position as a KC and the GLP name. He really believes he is above the law.

People have already complained. However despite his boasting he is no longer actually a barrister. His latest attacks on the rule of law might have got him in trouble.

https://order-order.com/2024/05/31/jolyon-maugham-i-used-to-be-a-kc/

Jolyon Maugham: "I Used To Be a KC"

Jolyon Maugham often uses the fact that he is a KC to defend his losing arguments on X. Just two weeks ago, he used his title to reject the view he was

https://order-order.com/2024/05/31/jolyon-maugham-i-used-to-be-a-kc/

fromorbit · 26/05/2025 20:03

moto748e · 26/05/2025 17:53

Brings me back to the rest of the 'clever' people, like James O'Brien. Do you feel comfortable being on the same side as this guy, James?

I have been keeping an eye on the GLP's fundraiser for the Supreme Court challenge and despite all the publicity in the last weeks it has slowed down considerably. It raised huge sums when it started in the first 10 days.

April 25th launched

May 6th - 361,869
May 16th - 387,292
May 18th - 393,560
May 26th - £406,867

It looks like they have run out of easy money now. It has now been a month since it started and besides a lot of publicity they have done nothing.

TheOtherRaven · 26/05/2025 19:33

CapitalAtRisk · 26/05/2025 19:22

Yes. But JKR must be DIGNIFIED! She must NOT enter into any arguments with men who goad her, because woman and woman must be womanly.

Quite. If you don't provoke them, they don't have to hit you.

ErrolTheDragon · 26/05/2025 19:26

CapitalAtRisk · 26/05/2025 19:22

Yes. But JKR must be DIGNIFIED! She must NOT enter into any arguments with men who goad her, because woman and woman must be womanly.

Ah yes, silly me.
Women have all the rights they need: the right to remain silent.

CapitalAtRisk · 26/05/2025 19:22

ErrolTheDragon · 26/05/2025 19:20

Setting up a fighting fund and then keeping quiet about it would be a bit silly, wouldn’t it?

Yes. But JKR must be DIGNIFIED! She must NOT enter into any arguments with men who goad her, because woman and woman must be womanly.

ErrolTheDragon · 26/05/2025 19:20

CapitalAtRisk · 26/05/2025 18:41

Do you think that "dignified silence" would have got women to this point?

Don't you think that "silence" is what they want of us? In fact used to demand, in the days of #nodebate?

Setting up a fighting fund and then keeping quiet about it would be a bit silly, wouldn’t it?