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New Pride window in Belfast City Hall

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TheWitchWon · 23/05/2025 17:23

https://x.com/ripx4nutmeg/status/1925882503417454717?t=LdPsR5-OaXqN7CJw6pFKlA&s=19

The slogan on the window

"Save Sodomy from Ulster"
It celebrates inclusivity apparently and is the Lord Mayor's proudest moment as the city's Mayor.

https://x.com/ripx4nutmeg/status/1925882503417454717?s=19&t=LdPsR5-OaXqN7CJw6pFKlA

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suggestionsplease1 · 23/05/2025 20:27

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 23/05/2025 20:22

We’ve already had insinuations of homophobia, allegations of being prudish, and expectations of transphobia, whatever will be next 🤔 I long for some originality from these people.

Perhaps you should offer up some fresh content that doesn't lend itself so readily to this?

teawamutu · 23/05/2025 20:23

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 23/05/2025 20:18

Yes, yes I am, I receive regular payments from JK Rowling, Julie Bindel and the Supreme Court. They pay me big bucks to inform on posters like you. And I mean BIG bucks 😂😂

Damnit LBH are you hoarding all the shadowy right wing cash?

I've been TERFing for free for bloody years. I want my cut!

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 23/05/2025 20:22

We’ve already had insinuations of homophobia, allegations of being prudish, and expectations of transphobia, whatever will be next 🤔 I long for some originality from these people.

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 23/05/2025 20:19

MatildaMovesMountains · 23/05/2025 20:14

I'm guessing than any minute now, the transphobia will begin to surface.

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Bingo!! Eyes down everyone 👀

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 23/05/2025 20:18

MatildaMovesMountains · 23/05/2025 20:14

Why are you policing this thread? Are you paid to do so?

Yes, yes I am, I receive regular payments from JK Rowling, Julie Bindel and the Supreme Court. They pay me big bucks to inform on posters like you. And I mean BIG bucks 😂😂

TooBigForMyBoots · 23/05/2025 20:17

TheWitchWon · 23/05/2025 19:33

Because gay rights were won by people just wanting to live their lives. Just being part of the population without prejudice or shame.
To get married. Work and not be seen as different.
What happens in the bedroom is nobody else's business.
Now we have slogans celebrating sodomy.
Just keep it to the bedroom.
Not an unreasonable expectation
Perhaps that makes me prudish so be it.

No, we don't have slogans celebrating sodomy, what a weird way of looking at it for someone who lived through it.Confused It's a small part of a stained glass window that represents a nasty chapter in our history.

But good art provokes a response so it's doing its job.Smile

MatildaMovesMountains · 23/05/2025 20:16

TheWitchWon · 23/05/2025 19:33

Because gay rights were won by people just wanting to live their lives. Just being part of the population without prejudice or shame.
To get married. Work and not be seen as different.
What happens in the bedroom is nobody else's business.
Now we have slogans celebrating sodomy.
Just keep it to the bedroom.
Not an unreasonable expectation
Perhaps that makes me prudish so be it.

Then own your prudery and let others celebrate the window. Live and let live, remember?

MatildaMovesMountains · 23/05/2025 20:15

YesYesAllGood · 23/05/2025 20:13

That’s fair enough. I’m just a bit sore this evening about large sums of money being thrown at things like this because I know lots of people who are really struggling at the moment. Arts and culture are really important, I know that, but... Probably not the thread for me tonight.

25k is really not a large sum of money...

MatildaMovesMountains · 23/05/2025 20:14

I'm guessing than any minute now, the transphobia will begin to surface.

MatildaMovesMountains · 23/05/2025 20:14

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 23/05/2025 20:13

This is a public forum, somebody starts a thread and other users comment on it, it isn’t my fault that you are unaware of this concept.

Why are you policing this thread? Are you paid to do so?

YesYesAllGood · 23/05/2025 20:13

TooBigForMyBoots · 23/05/2025 20:07

I disagree. It's a brilliant use of that budget. £25k on a lasting piece of public art marking the history of our city in our City Hall? Bargain.

And I love that it's easily understood and not abstract.Grin

That’s fair enough. I’m just a bit sore this evening about large sums of money being thrown at things like this because I know lots of people who are really struggling at the moment. Arts and culture are really important, I know that, but... Probably not the thread for me tonight.

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 23/05/2025 20:13

MatildaMovesMountains · 23/05/2025 20:04

I'm just asking a question. Why do you feel the need to intervene?

This is a public forum, somebody starts a thread and other users comment on it, it isn’t my fault that you are unaware of this concept.

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 23/05/2025 20:10

MatildaMovesMountains · 23/05/2025 19:34

To be fair, 25k wouldn't go very far if spent on consumables. A window will hopefully last a very long time. It's OK to just own your homophobia, you don't need to dress it up in faux hand wringing.

I can’t work out if you’re deliberately trying to be goady or you just don’t realise it.

shoofly · 23/05/2025 20:09

YesYesAllGood · 23/05/2025 19:32

100% this. I mourn that this is what the liberal left has become. Who cares about kids living in poverty, struggling libraries, healthcare and schools when there’s many thousands of pounds to spend on a virtue-signalling window.

And we’ll all be branded homophobic if we object.

Clearly someone who has no clue about what councils are responsible for in Northern Ireland. Quick clue it isn't libraries, healthcare, or schools....

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 23/05/2025 20:08

MarieDeGournay · 23/05/2025 20:03

I'm beginning to suspect that any criticism of the window is going to be condemned as motivated by homophobia.
Happy to be proved wrong of course..

Sadly, you’re not wrong. It appeals to people who want to present as tolerant and inclusive, gets lols and likes on SM, but in real terms it achieves absolutely nothing for the people whom it’s supposed to represent.

SirChenjins · 23/05/2025 20:08

Why is he proud of an organisation that has such little respect for the legal rights of women? Always a misogynist bloke behind these things.

YesYesAllGood · 23/05/2025 20:08

PandoraSocks · 23/05/2025 20:03

But that is not why OP posted, is it?

She didn't post saying she was against spending 25K on the window. She posted because she was upset about the use of a famous gay rights slogan.

I wasn’t referencing the OP. I was just picking up on something someone else said that I strongly agreed with.

TooBigForMyBoots · 23/05/2025 20:07

YesYesAllGood · 23/05/2025 19:52

Yes, and 25k on one window isn’t a terribly good use of that budget.

I disagree. It's a brilliant use of that budget. £25k on a lasting piece of public art marking the history of our city in our City Hall? Bargain.

And I love that it's easily understood and not abstract.Grin

MatildaMovesMountains · 23/05/2025 20:05

MarieDeGournay · 23/05/2025 20:03

I'm beginning to suspect that any criticism of the window is going to be condemned as motivated by homophobia.
Happy to be proved wrong of course..

What else could be the motivation? Genuinely?

YesYesAllGood · 23/05/2025 20:04

MarieDeGournay · 23/05/2025 20:03

I'm beginning to suspect that any criticism of the window is going to be condemned as motivated by homophobia.
Happy to be proved wrong of course..

Unfortunately not. I made that exact point earlier and was then promptly accused of homophobia.

MatildaMovesMountains · 23/05/2025 20:04

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 23/05/2025 19:58

She’s posting on a forum which she’s perfectly entitled to do. What are you trying to achieve?

I'm just asking a question. Why do you feel the need to intervene?

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 23/05/2025 20:03

YesYesAllGood · 23/05/2025 19:49

Your first sentence is fair. But I still think 25k spent on foodbanks or even a local mental health charity for gay youth would be a hell of a lot more valuable than a feckin’ window. What actually does a window in a building few of us are in or near contribute to gay rights? At the very least the money for this should have been raised separately.

Your accusation that I’m homophobic is just untrue, unfair and a really cheap shot.

It’s similar to the rainbow lanyards and trains, what do they actually achieve in the real world? A lot of gay and lesbian people I know find it all a bit cringe.

PandoraSocks · 23/05/2025 20:03

YesYesAllGood · 23/05/2025 19:52

Yes, and 25k on one window isn’t a terribly good use of that budget.

But that is not why OP posted, is it?

She didn't post saying she was against spending 25K on the window. She posted because she was upset about the use of a famous gay rights slogan.

MarieDeGournay · 23/05/2025 20:03

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 23/05/2025 19:58

She’s posting on a forum which she’s perfectly entitled to do. What are you trying to achieve?

I'm beginning to suspect that any criticism of the window is going to be condemned as motivated by homophobia.
Happy to be proved wrong of course..

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 23/05/2025 19:58

MatildaMovesMountains · 23/05/2025 19:26

OP, what are you trying to achieve? They're not going to remove the window?

She’s posting on a forum which she’s perfectly entitled to do. What are you trying to achieve?