Page 6 | New Pride window in Belfast City Hall

TheWitchWon · 2025-05-23T16:23:52+00:00

[[https://x.com/ripx4nutmeg/status/1925882503417454717?s=19&t=LdPsR5-OaXqN7CJw6pFKlA https://x.com/ripx4nutmeg/status/1925882503417454717?t=LdPsR5-OaXqN7CJw6pFKlA&s=19]] The slogan on the window *"Save Sodomy from Ulster"* It celebrates inclusivity apparently and is the Lord Mayor's proudest moment as the city's Mayor.

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TheWitchWon · 24/05/2025 03:21

suggestionsplease1 · 24/05/2025 03:14

I'm quite happily reading everything you have to say, it's probably one of my less desirable character traits, enjoying someone shoot themselves in the foot 😁

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You better look down then.

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TheWitchWon · 24/05/2025 03:18

TooBigForMyBoots · 24/05/2025 03:11

Ah. So this thread is an Art Appreciation/Criticism thread? Why didn't you say so? And why is it in FWR?

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Whats wrong with FWR?
Lot of topics are discussed here?

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TooBigForMyBoots · 24/05/2025 03:17

suggestionsplease1 · 24/05/2025 03:10

I imagine The Provoked are on the "Don't tell anyone else that we're a right wing extremist group, pretend it's all about that trans stuff as that Mumsnet site seems to be into that stuff haha, and then we can build up to homophobic stuff in time when we've nailed that one as they seem like they'll be on board with that as well heehee" groups.

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This stained glass window has nothing, I mean absolutely nothing to do with trans.

Who is ripx4nutmeg anyway? Why do they care about Belfast City Hall art?

suggestionsplease1 · 24/05/2025 03:14

TheWitchWon · 24/05/2025 03:09

You really don't see the irony of your posts, do you?
You talk about being silenced, while criticising someone for speaking.
It's a discussion about a slogan on a window.
No agenda, no hate (from me).
Just a discussion about the appropriateness of the slogan being put as a permanent fixture of a public building.
Some people love it, others don't (for various reasons).
But you seem to not want it discussed at all and are now veering towards this thread being a conspiracy to erase the existence of the Lgbtqia+ community.
Perhaps taking a break from FWR might help.

I'm quite happily reading everything you have to say, it's probably one of my less desirable character traits, enjoying someone shoot themselves in the foot 😁

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TheWitchWon · 24/05/2025 03:12

TooBigForMyBoots · 24/05/2025 02:58

What provocation? Who's being "provoked"?

I've checked Belfast Live, BBC NI and UTV. Not a mention. I asked teen DC if anything came up on their socials. Nada. Even the OP hasn't come back with where they've seen outrage.

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I did come back and said I wasn't outraged. I don't object to the window itself, I just don't like the slogan on it.
I definitely wouldn't be throwing stones at it or anything like that 😲

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TooBigForMyBoots · 24/05/2025 03:11

TheWitchWon · 24/05/2025 03:09

You really don't see the irony of your posts, do you?
You talk about being silenced, while criticising someone for speaking.
It's a discussion about a slogan on a window.
No agenda, no hate (from me).
Just a discussion about the appropriateness of the slogan being put as a permanent fixture of a public building.
Some people love it, others don't (for various reasons).
But you seem to not want it discussed at all and are now veering towards this thread being a conspiracy to erase the existence of the Lgbtqia+ community.
Perhaps taking a break from FWR might help.

Ah. So this thread is an Art Appreciation/Criticism thread? Why didn't you say so? And why is it in FWR?

suggestionsplease1 · 24/05/2025 03:10

TooBigForMyBoots · 24/05/2025 02:58

What provocation? Who's being "provoked"?

I've checked Belfast Live, BBC NI and UTV. Not a mention. I asked teen DC if anything came up on their socials. Nada. Even the OP hasn't come back with where they've seen outrage.

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I imagine The Provoked are on the "Don't tell anyone else that we're a right wing extremist group, pretend it's all about that trans stuff as that Mumsnet site seems to be into that stuff haha, and then we can build up to homophobic stuff in time when we've nailed that one as they seem like they'll be on board with that as well heehee" groups.

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TheWitchWon · 24/05/2025 03:09

You really don't see the irony of your posts, do you?
You talk about being silenced, while criticising someone for speaking.
It's a discussion about a slogan on a window.
No agenda, no hate (from me).
Just a discussion about the appropriateness of the slogan being put as a permanent fixture of a public building.
Some people love it, others don't (for various reasons).
But you seem to not want it discussed at all and are now veering towards this thread being a conspiracy to erase the existence of the Lgbtqia+ community.
Perhaps taking a break from FWR might help.

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suggestionsplease1 · 24/05/2025 03:01

SammyScrounge · 24/05/2025 02:42

Do you seriously think this window will survive? That the provocation will be ignored?

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Can you explain what the provocation is exactly?

Omg 😱 shock, horror, gay people dare to...exist 🤯 and have a wee window tae themselves.

Down With That Sort Of Thing? Eh?

TooBigForMyBoots · 24/05/2025 02:58

SammyScrounge · 24/05/2025 02:42

Do you seriously think this window will survive? That the provocation will be ignored?

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What provocation? Who's being "provoked"?

I've checked Belfast Live, BBC NI and UTV. Not a mention. I asked teen DC if anything came up on their socials. Nada. Even the OP hasn't come back with where they've seen outrage.

TooBigForMyBoots · 24/05/2025 02:44

Thunderpants88 · 24/05/2025 01:52

I meant through the window

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What kind of arsehole destroys a piece of public art because it commemorates and celebrates the fight for gay rights?🤔

SammyScrounge · 24/05/2025 02:42

suggestionsplease1 · 24/05/2025 02:05

Heading out with the boys tonight then?

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Do you seriously think this window will survive? That the provocation will be ignored?

TooBigForMyBoots · 24/05/2025 02:39

SirChenjins · 23/05/2025 23:03

It’s a window that celebrates the banning of a long-established organisation that fights against homophobia and has significant elements within it that supports violence, intimidation and intolerance against the legally established rights of women.

So no, it’s not just a fucking window.

It celebrates the banning of who?

TooBigForMyBoots · 24/05/2025 02:31

SirChenjins · 23/05/2025 22:53

Whereas women are hounded out of their jobs, out of single sex spaces, lose their places on sports podiums , physically assaulted, threatened with death, decapitation and rape.

Your sympathies are misdirected .

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It's possible to be concerned about both misogyny and homophobia. As any lesbian will tell you.

TooBigForMyBoots · 24/05/2025 02:29

Screamingabdabz · 23/05/2025 22:51

What a wonderful symbol of disadvantaged and vulnerable people - a white male punching the air. Brilliant. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

It isn't a symbol of disadvantaged and vulnerable people. It's a stained glass window commemorating the fight for gay rights in NI.

It would be very strange if the person depicted wasn't white.

suggestionsplease1 · 24/05/2025 02:24

*White Lives Matter
🥱🙄

suggestionsplease1 · 24/05/2025 02:23

SammyScrounge · 24/05/2025 02:12

Yes the 'phobia word will be dragged out yet again, as if anybody cared. Imagine a.different slogan - an explicit heterosexual one being put in the window instead. It would be condemned as gross and offensive. People would.definitely not take children to see it or have it explained to them. Why does a.child have to know what sodomy is?

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Goodness yes you're right.

And White Live Matter Too. 🥱🙄

suggestionsplease1 · 24/05/2025 02:20

TheWitchWon · 24/05/2025 02:13

Oh, for goodness sake.
Stop with the dramatics.
It's not an attempt to pretend the Lgbtqia + community doesn't exist.
It's just people with a different opinion than you about a window.

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Yes, and you're going out of your way to post on FWR aren't you?

I mean people have lots of opinions on lots of different things, windows included ( not a fan of velux myself); they occur as passing thoughts and drift away again.

But no, this has animated and energised you so much that it was worthy of a thread on FWR. 🥱 Anyone else might think there was an agenda 🙄

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TheWitchWon · 24/05/2025 02:13

suggestionsplease1 · 24/05/2025 01:27

This is the age old technique to silence, shame, and diminish gay people.

Make us invisible and then we are easier to isolate and eventually dismiss.

Pretend we don't exist and you don't have to have to acknowledge the harms that are done to us.

Make us invisible so we can not find each other, and can not support each other.

Visibility enables us to combat the prejudices and hostilities that have always existed, and are returning with more force in the world today.

"Just keep quiet won't you, we don't want to hear this" That is what this thread is all about.

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Oh, for goodness sake.
Stop with the dramatics.
It's not an attempt to pretend the Lgbtqia + community doesn't exist.
It's just people with a different opinion than you about a window.

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SammyScrounge · 24/05/2025 02:12

YesYesAllGood · 23/05/2025 19:32

100% this. I mourn that this is what the liberal left has become. Who cares about kids living in poverty, struggling libraries, healthcare and schools when there’s many thousands of pounds to spend on a virtue-signalling window.

And we’ll all be branded homophobic if we object.

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Yes the 'phobia word will be dragged out yet again, as if anybody cared. Imagine a.different slogan - an explicit heterosexual one being put in the window instead. It would be condemned as gross and offensive. People would.definitely not take children to see it or have it explained to them. Why does a.child have to know what sodomy is?

Murica · 24/05/2025 02:08

I read this whole thread before I clicked on the link. I imagine they were going for heroic but it just looks kind of cheesy to me. The arrows on the male symbols look like little penises.

I don't think the word sodomy on a piece of art in a town hall is going to foster tolerance. More likely the opposite.

suggestionsplease1 · 24/05/2025 02:05

SammyScrounge · 24/05/2025 02:03

I wouldn't bet on this window lasting very long.

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Heading out with the boys tonight then?

SammyScrounge · 24/05/2025 02:03

MatildaMovesMountains · 23/05/2025 19:34

To be fair, 25k wouldn't go very far if spent on consumables. A window will hopefully last a very long time. It's OK to just own your homophobia, you don't need to dress it up in faux hand wringing.

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I wouldn't bet on this window lasting very long.

suggestionsplease1 · 24/05/2025 02:00

Thunderpants88 · 24/05/2025 01:52

I meant through the window

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And this is what we're up against.

Feminism and Women's Rights (FWR) on Mumsnet is fertile ground for those who would use violence to suppress gay visibility.

This poster is confident to post this here because they know it is landing in a receptive forum.

Thunderpants88 · 24/05/2025 01:52

PandoraSocks · 24/05/2025 00:13

That is an old fashioned phrase to describe Micky Murray. But a nice sentiment, I guess.

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I meant through the window