New Pride window in Belfast City Hall

Scold and leave. ‘‘Twas ever thus, you’re hilariously predictable 😂

Christ, now I remember why I rarely stray on to this part of mumsnet. Have a lovely weekend.

Did I say it was? The poster asked me where the comments were and I replied. Or do you want to also lecture us on exactly which SM platforms we can use, in order to be included on the purity list? 🤦‍♀️

They do, that’s in Chapter 1.

Twitter is a cess pit since Musk took over. It isn't a barometer of public opinion.

I want to know some more of these textbook manoeuvres to undermine gay people. Do they include saying "the current season of Doctor Who is a bit crap"?

We don’t use textbooks, that would identify us all too easily, we use a secret sign language only available to women who have submitted to a chromosome test in order to prove their womanhood. We’re very organised you know, we take our work on here VERY seriously.

Well whether you are any of those things or not, you are participating in a textbook manoeuvre to undermine gay people, which we are seeing more and more on FWR.

I’m not saying the window is anti women, I’m saying that you are.

I’m not a Christian though, and I’m not an American and contrary to your belief, I’m not right wing, so this is utter nonsense. But thanks for posting.

Women will no longer be silenced. We have a voice. We will be heard!
Women will no longer be silenced. We have a voice. We will be heard!
Women will no longer be silenced. We have a voice. We will be heard!

That all I have to say….for the moment.

I'm pushing back against the abuse a window celebrating gay rights is receiving on FWR.

To tie yourself in knots trying to make out that is an anti-woman thing to do is bizarre.

I like stained glass, but think it's a bit odd to have a sex act stated in a permanent display like that.
I'd thing think the same whether it was sodomy, vaginal intercourse or any explicit sex act.

I mean, maybe it's educational . . . in a "what's sodomy mummy?/what does that say Harold?" kind of way.

I thought it referred to anal intercourse, but wanted to check, so I googled.

I was surprised by the Wikipedia entry:
Sodomy (/ˈsɒdəmi/), also called buggery in British English, generally refers to either anal sex (but occasionally also oral sex) between people, or any sexual activity between a human and another animal (bestiality).

https://www.splcenter.org/resources/hatewatch/christian-right-tips-fight-transgender-rights-separate-t-lgb/

This link describes the general approach

I think you’re being terribly polite by saying ONE too many 😂

Because I'm tactful and polite, I'm not going to suggest that by three in the morning suggestions had one too many.

Yes, it’s all a big conspiracy, Mumsnet is made up of sleeper cells who will be galvanised at the appropriate signal to …. Oh that’s right, stand up for women and girls and protect our rights to single sex spaces and sports, and discuss this with other like minded women.

Please tell me where the secret groups are, I’m feeling a bit left out 😂😂

Wow, I really didn’t have paranoia on my bingo card but you live and learn.

Is this a building that does public tours? What will the tour guide say about this window? (Imo it's a bit horrid but could have been far worse). Wondering what window it replaced and whether there is (say) a women's rights window in the building.

Thank you to @suggestionsplease1 for the phrase 'gay visibility'. It's a bit like trans visibility? Insistence that gay people have to seen and acknowledged applauded all the time? Otherwise it's homo/transphobia. It's not about denying existence it's about denying the spotlight. I had never understood the 'denying our existence' claim before but now I have a better grasp.

Scold, scold, scold. You just can’t stop yourself from trying to control the narrative can you? It’s hilarious 😆

Are you talking about women? Because what you’ve described is exactly what you do every time you join these discussions. You belittle and scold and lecture us on what we should be discussing and how we should be doing it.

You accuse us of homophobia and transphobia , telling us that we’re prudish and old fashioned. It’s all an attempt to silence us and bully us into submission.

What you fail to recognise is that a lot of the women on this forum are lesbians, who have forgotten more about discrimination than you will ever know.

You’ve described yourself in this post, with your attitude towards women, maybe reflect on that.

It’s all over X, he said he’s had to close the comments due to the homophobia. I just saw people saying it’s awful or a waste of money, no homophobia.

I’m not on X but you can find it all on nitter.net.

Ah...but don't you see...a careful pathway is being laid... It starts with the anti-trans rhetoric and the fraudulent narrative is espoused - where trans people have supposedly taken over Pride...this then justifies hostility towards any signifiers of Pride and gay people by extension. And eventually the homophobia as seen in this thread and others in FWR is legitimised.

It's a carefully curated route which FWR has well honed.

You're probably not on the groups where this technique is discussed!