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New Pride window in Belfast City Hall

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TheWitchWon · 23/05/2025 17:23

https://x.com/ripx4nutmeg/status/1925882503417454717?t=LdPsR5-OaXqN7CJw6pFKlA&s=19

The slogan on the window

"Save Sodomy from Ulster"
It celebrates inclusivity apparently and is the Lord Mayor's proudest moment as the city's Mayor.

https://x.com/ripx4nutmeg/status/1925882503417454717?s=19&t=LdPsR5-OaXqN7CJw6pFKlA

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TooBigForMyBoots · 24/05/2025 13:32

ArabellaScott · 24/05/2025 13:19

It's not about gay people. As we see on this thread, it's about those who adhere to the correct catechism.

It's about a stained glass window, documenting a part of our history (often overlooked) in Belfast City Hall.

Force teaming it with today's TRA nonsense is offensive and ignorant.

TooBigForMyBoots · 24/05/2025 13:28

SammyScrounge · 24/05/2025 02:12

Yes the 'phobia word will be dragged out yet again, as if anybody cared. Imagine a.different slogan - an explicit heterosexual one being put in the window instead. It would be condemned as gross and offensive. People would.definitely not take children to see it or have it explained to them. Why does a.child have to know what sodomy is?

I will have no problem explaining this to my 7yo DC. Context is everything. Save Ulster from Sodomy was a despicable campaign that demonised and terrorised our gay community. There are still people today who demonise and terrorise our gay community. Who brand them "unnatural", "unhealthy" and "deviant" because they have a very natural attraction to those of the same sex.

The fight for gay rights should be celebrated. From decriminalisation to same sex marriage. These rights were not simply given, they were hard fought and won.

And yes I do consider those who'd wish to damage it, homophobic. Because they are. They were homophobes before this window existed.

suggestionsplease1 · 24/05/2025 13:27

SirChenjins · 24/05/2025 13:24

Remember the other post where you screenshotted that and posters explained it all to you?

Nope, I don't remember any valid explanations in the face of this overwhelming big picture.

SirChenjins · 24/05/2025 13:24

suggestionsplease1 · 24/05/2025 12:59

Next one

Remember the other post where you screenshotted that and posters explained it all to you?

PriOn1 · 24/05/2025 13:23

ArabellaScott · 24/05/2025 13:19

It's not about gay people. As we see on this thread, it's about those who adhere to the correct catechism.

The new LGBTQ+ religion. Nothing to do with gay rights.

ScrollingLeaves · 24/05/2025 13:22

TooBigForMyBoots · 24/05/2025 13:13

Is equal rights for gay people a new civic religion now?

Yes, it is.

ArabellaScott · 24/05/2025 13:19

TooBigForMyBoots · 24/05/2025 13:13

Is equal rights for gay people a new civic religion now?

It's not about gay people. As we see on this thread, it's about those who adhere to the correct catechism.

TooBigForMyBoots · 24/05/2025 13:13

NotDavidTennant · 24/05/2025 11:27

I think it's quite fitting. A stained glass window for the new civic religion.

Is equal rights for gay people a new civic religion now?

ScrollingLeaves · 24/05/2025 13:08

ArabellaScott · 24/05/2025 10:38

I can't see the actual window, the X post has gone

Here it is.

New Pride window in Belfast City Hall
New Pride window in Belfast City Hall
suggestionsplease1 · 24/05/2025 12:59

Next one

New Pride window in Belfast City Hall
suggestionsplease1 · 24/05/2025 12:58

MarieDeGournay · 24/05/2025 12:34

Oh we discuss other things too, like Dr Who and the history of tarpaulin and supporting each other through family tragedies - and expressing opinions 😱 on pieces of public art like this one.

But when it comes to stuff like sex and gender, we stick to the facts, the scientifically-based, properly-reference, provable kind, and no amount of American Right Wing Christian millions will shift us from that.

And god knows they've tried - we all live in huge mansions with uterus-shaped swimming pools and have more $$$$s than we know what to do with, in Swiss bank accounts and/or cryptocurrency, but nope, when it comes to the important stuff, we still stubbornly believe in facts Smile

What, like the fact that 2 of the biggest indices in the world examining women's equality with men and wellbeing show that 8 out of top ten countries in each have policies of gender self ID and apparently "don't know what a woman is"?

Didn't think FWR liked that fact very much.

New Pride window in Belfast City Hall
TooBigForMyBoots · 24/05/2025 12:50

hedgerunner · 24/05/2025 12:19

@TooBigForMyBoots
it was discussed in bbc radio Ulster yesterday and there was a heated argument between Mal O’hara and a Dup counsellor (Sammy someone).

Some DUPers still believe that homosexuality is an abomination and like to attach it to paedophilia.Hmm They are the homophobic bigots who wanted to keep homosexuality a crime. They lost.

The gay people of NI won their legal rights and protections. That's what this window is celebrating.

elgreco · 24/05/2025 12:49

That article is completely irrelevant. I mean good luck finding Hispanics to aggitate against the gay community in NI.

SionnachRuadh · 24/05/2025 12:44

I very clearly remember the murder of David Templeton in 1997. It happened not far from me.

I mention this for the benefit of anyone who's indulging in now more than ever finger-wagging.

We know who killed David. It was members of the UVF. Nothing whatsoever to do with women here, or JKR, or American Christians, or Putin, or whoever this week's bogeyman is.

Nobody has ever been brought to justice for David's murder. That's not unknown in NI.

I'd really like to see a memorial to David. People should remember him. I'd be very happy to contribute.

But I don't think that's the sort of thing that Belfast's rainbow dildo community and their representatives on the council are interested in.

ArabellaScott · 24/05/2025 12:42

History of tarpaulin?! I missed that!

MarieDeGournay · 24/05/2025 12:34

suggestionsplease1 · 24/05/2025 10:50

"the kind of well-researched, fact-based, carefully-thought-through objective opinions we favour on FWR"

🤣🤣 Loving this on a thread moaning about a window 😂

Oh we discuss other things too, like Dr Who and the history of tarpaulin and supporting each other through family tragedies - and expressing opinions 😱 on pieces of public art like this one.

But when it comes to stuff like sex and gender, we stick to the facts, the scientifically-based, properly-reference, provable kind, and no amount of American Right Wing Christian millions will shift us from that.

And god knows they've tried - we all live in huge mansions with uterus-shaped swimming pools and have more $$$$s than we know what to do with, in Swiss bank accounts and/or cryptocurrency, but nope, when it comes to the important stuff, we still stubbornly believe in facts Smile

hedgerunner · 24/05/2025 12:19

@TooBigForMyBoots
it was discussed in bbc radio Ulster yesterday and there was a heated argument between Mal O’hara and a Dup counsellor (Sammy someone).

suggestionsplease1 · 24/05/2025 12:03

ArabellaScott · 24/05/2025 11:53

So you're saying this NOM organisation is agitating against this window?

Why don't you go back and read my posts properly and you will see I am giving examples of how these tactics are practised.

ArabellaScott · 24/05/2025 11:53

suggestionsplease1 · 24/05/2025 11:35

You asked if NOM were Belfast based and my response was no plus...it doesn't really matter where an organisation is based geographically, as influence can extend internationally.

🤷‍♀️ What's weird about acknowledging that people who are very motivated on matters will try to influence on these areas abroad as they do at home?

How strange and naive of you not to be aware of this.

So you're saying this NOM organisation is agitating against this window?

ArabellaScott · 24/05/2025 11:52

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 24/05/2025 11:30

Thanks. Gosh, that's ugly.

TooBigForMyBoots · 24/05/2025 11:40

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 24/05/2025 06:56

It’s all over X, he said he’s had to close the comments due to the homophobia. I just saw people saying it’s awful or a waste of money, no homophobia.

I’m not on X but you can find it all on nitter.net.

Looked on Nitter but i couldnt find much. 1 post saying the mayor is responsible for the window. He isn't. Another saying the window is in a church. It isn't. And a third complaining about Sorcha Eastwood.

Nothing about FOI requests from NI rate payers.

X is not real life.

suggestionsplease1 · 24/05/2025 11:35

ArabellaScott · 24/05/2025 11:25

Okay?! What are you actually on about?

Have you any idea how weird you are coming across?

You asked if NOM were Belfast based and my response was no plus...it doesn't really matter where an organisation is based geographically, as influence can extend internationally.

🤷‍♀️ What's weird about acknowledging that people who are very motivated on matters will try to influence on these areas abroad as they do at home?

How strange and naive of you not to be aware of this.

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 24/05/2025 11:30

ArabellaScott · 24/05/2025 11:29

One minute we're American Christofascists engaged in a deadly holy war against all the gays, the next it's just some wee wimmin moaning about a window.

Pick a lane.

(I still haven't seen the fecking window. Or had my promised funding from the dark right web. )

It’s here Arabella -

nitter.net/pic/orig/media%2FGrsfTMZXAAAZJP2.jpg

ArabellaScott · 24/05/2025 11:29

NotDavidTennant · 24/05/2025 11:27

I think it's quite fitting. A stained glass window for the new civic religion.

Exactly my first thought.

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 24/05/2025 11:29

ArabellaScott · 24/05/2025 11:25

Okay?! What are you actually on about?

Have you any idea how weird you are coming across?

Once you’re as far as this down the rabbit hole of conspiracy theories there’s no reason to be found.

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