New Pride window in Belfast City Hall

Thon looks like it was designed by a committee rather than an actual artist. Garish wouldn’t begin to cover it 😵‍💫

I’m not sure how you think this helps your argument, but never mind.

And here’s the top 10 by GDP per capita, which is a very different list:

Luxembourg, Ireland, Switzerland, Singapore, Iceland, Norway, United States, Denmark, Quatar and the Netherlands.

Austria is number 13, Sweden 14.

None of the countries on your list are, by any stretch of the imagination, poor.

That's not very much in evidence when my artist DP tries to get funding for community projects.

“Art”? That’s a laugh and a half!

it’s provoking and ugly. I don’t want my 8 year old seeing “sodomy” as something to be celebrated. It’s what the LGB group do. Have to look the loudest and shout the loudest ALL. THE. TIME.

Noone cares. LGB people have their rights now jog on and shut up. No one actually cares who you sleep with. It’s such attention seeking

Except, of course, there is a pretty poor correlation between the world's richest countries and women's wellbeing and equality scores on those indices, and also much lower rates of gender self-ID:

Here are the top ten countries by GDP:

USA, China, Germany, Japan, India, the UK, France, Italy, Canada, and Brazil

And yes, I have no issues with repeating myself, just like most people on FWR I imagine. Most posters here choose to repeat stories about individual criminal transwomen to create a fraudulent narrative they they are somehow representative of trans people in general, and I'll repeat the facts that the best countries in the world to be a woman have taken forward policies of gender self-ID and retained their positions at the top of all the tables for women despite this.

Can someone do a cover of 'Victoria' by the Kinks/The fall but substitute 'transphobia', please? Thanks.

I think you’re the one that’s fixated on transphobia. Imagined transphobia obviously.

Because the OP is trying to shoehorn in some transphobia for unknown reasons.

You may as well say that the best countries for women are the best for pet ownership. It’s correlation, not causation. Lots of advantages for people (and animals) spring from a common cause. Rich, developed countries feature many social and economic factors that benefit women, disabled people, people from ethnic minorities, other groups.

But this really has been done to death. Nothing will shake the illogical foundations of your assertions.

Is it Groundhog Day? 😂

Now FWR has to answer

Oh, mate.

Look up the Women, Peace and Security Index, or the Global Gender Gap Report (or indeed any major international study on Women's equality, rights and wellbeing that compiles an index) You will see a full breakdown of how they have approached this.

Take any respected one of your choosing. Then have a look at the top performing countries and then analyse which of them also have policies of gender self ID.

Mumsnet should be thrilled really, it is a binary variable after all 😁

Oh but I can - I’m just enjoying watching you repeat the same nonsense and posting the same wee bar chart while claiming you can’t recall the explanations that were provided for you previously.

Which tables and how are the compilers calculating this ranking?

Well it appears you can't either 🤔

It is funny you can’t remember the explanations, I agree.

😂 You're too funny.

There has never been a good FWR counter argument to this picture, and it seems like you've got nothing again.

Where is the T on the window? I can't see it.

The t-shirt depicted was a protest against the Save Ulster from Sodomy campaign @ScholesPanda. Save Ulster from Sodomy is still around in some churches, mostly Free Presbyterian ones.

Yes, you said this on the last thread and it was all explained to you then.

Might Belfast people find it offensive for the civic hall to seemingly represent their city as Sodom in the stained glass window?

Firstly is does not represent Sodom. You'd have to be mad to think it does.

And secondly no, the people of Belfast don't seem to be finding it offensive. The only objections seem to be coming from the Twitter loons and a single DUP'er.

We've come a long way.😊

Looking at those windows I'd have thought a lot of them are pretty political and divisive. I mean the RUC had to be renamed because they were so divisive. So perhaps the window will be in good company.

Nothing will ever be completely inclusive or non-political. Women's rights aren't settled or controversial either, but I still think we should have a window.

I'm also curious about the word sodomy. It's not a word I use or hear very often but there was a church near me (some flavour of independent Presbyterian) that used to shove anti-gay literature through our letterboxes all the time which had loads of mentions of it. They didn't care about my children reading those (and some were very graphic), so I would struggle to take objections to it's usage by another group seriously really, when made by their spiritual cousins in NI.

@SionnachRuadh thanks for explaining further.