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What exactly will all of these organisations do when the EHRC publishes the consultation ?

62 replies

Orangemintcream · 23/05/2025 13:40

These companies and organisations that are “waiting for guidance” (that clearly have their own legal teams or access to one to advise them) what will they do when it is published and yet again reiterates the law ?

Ignore it ?
Tantrum ?
Comply ?

What exactly are they hoping for with keep delaying ?

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Shortshriftandlethal · 23/05/2025 14:36

terryleather · 23/05/2025 13:50

I think many will just not comply because who's going to make them?

Bringing cases to court is a long and costly process, both financially and mentally, and many folk affected just won't be up for that understandably.

I'm sad to say it, but I think we've still got a very long way to go yet...

Some won't in the shorter term, but once action is taken against one for non compliance the others will fall into line quite quickly.

The will and the backing is there to take the legal measures to ensure compliance, and the law is on that side too. It would be a pointless and expensive process to put your organisation through legal proceedings when you are clearly flouting the law and will not win, and will also have costs to pay, plus fines for non compliance.

frenchnoodle · 23/05/2025 14:32

Pretend it's difficult to understand and not comply most likely.

Following orders from the lgbtqi companies they get guidance from.

Orangemintcream · 23/05/2025 14:30

terryleather · 23/05/2025 13:50

I think many will just not comply because who's going to make them?

Bringing cases to court is a long and costly process, both financially and mentally, and many folk affected just won't be up for that understandably.

I'm sad to say it, but I think we've still got a very long way to go yet...

I actually think quite a lot of people will be up for pursuing legal action actually - given the past few years.

There is a poster who’s DP (a man) is currently requesting to join the WI as his male self rather than a male with long hair and lipstick.

Currently they’re saying no but it will be one to watch.

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WarriorN · 23/05/2025 14:22

Tantrum

pay JM more money

set up various groups

tantrum some more

and so the grift will continue

nauticant · 23/05/2025 14:20

I think they'll say they'll comply, drag their heels doing that and deliberately cause uncertainty, treat gender critical women like shit on the bottom of their shoe when they seek to assert rights, and lobby like crazy in the shadows to get the government to rescue the situation with new and confounding leglislation.

Harassedevictee · 23/05/2025 14:11

I think the best thing we can all do is repeatedly quote Baroness Falkner

BBC Radio 2 Women’s Hour at 10:00 today https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m002cdzr?partner=uk.co.bbc&origin=share-mobile

”I should emphasise for your listeners the Supreme Court judgement and clarification it provided is the law of the land and was the law of the land immediately. So all service providers should be getting their own legal advice on interpreting the judgement as of 16th April 2025.”

Woman's Hour - Baroness Kishwer Falkner, Fifth anniversary of the death of George Floyd, Sarah Pochin MP - BBC Sounds

Baroness Kishwer Falkner on the recent Supreme Court ruling on the definition of a woman.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m002cdzr?origin=share-mobile&partner=uk.co.bbc

Leafstamp · 23/05/2025 14:05

Toseland · 23/05/2025 13:58

Was there lots of "waiting for guidance" when they let men into women's spaces, into women’s sports, changed the names of women's things without consultation, decided to promote one group above all others? Hmm?

Indeed!

Myalternate · 23/05/2025 14:02

Women will always be Women.
If organisations choose to ignore the Law by not providing the SSP we require or refuse to respect the boundaries requested by Women, the threat of legal action will make them capitulate. If it’s Law, it’s the Law.

Toseland · 23/05/2025 13:58

Was there lots of "waiting for guidance" when they let men into women's spaces, into women’s sports, changed the names of women's things without consultation, decided to promote one group above all others? Hmm?

Conxis · 23/05/2025 13:58

I think some will ignore and hope people don’t have the funds or energy to sue.
Others will comply but can blame the EHRC. “We fully support you blah blah blah but our hands are tied. Look this is what the nasty mean EHRC say”
Others will comply when their insurance cover forces them to

terryleather · 23/05/2025 13:50

I think many will just not comply because who's going to make them?

Bringing cases to court is a long and costly process, both financially and mentally, and many folk affected just won't be up for that understandably.

I'm sad to say it, but I think we've still got a very long way to go yet...

MistyGreenAndBlue · 23/05/2025 13:49

As I understand it (and I'm happy to be corrected) the interim guidance is pretty much what the final guidance will be - they aren't planning to actually CHANGE it as such just add more helpful examples to it.

So, assuming this is right, the law has been clarified, the guidance is out. There's absolutely NO excuse for not implementing it NOW!
Perhaps these companies need to be told this. There's nothing to wait for. It's done.