I find this disappointing from Lady Hale

Just a woman with privilege and money

the grooming gangs had no problem knowing who to target

but the Lady Hale and her daughter will never have to encounter this

but hey. Biological sex. Such a mad idea

The Germans (of course) have a word for it:

https://www.collinsdictionary.com/submission/1182/fachidiot

In theory there is no difference between Theory and Practice. In practice there is.

"Sure it works in practice but does it work in theory?" is a famous quote - you can get it on the shirts. I understand it is popular at Harvard!

It is the most astonishing example of the emperor's new clothes.

Its not. It's not good. These aren't bad people, they aren't stupid, and I'm utterly dismayed at how they can end up making such bewilderingly fucking stupid statements. Biological sex doesn't exist? I mean, listen to yourself! For God's sake.

I do think the most committed TRA know what sex is and knows its about reproductive roles, lots talk about sperm and egg storage, and surrogacy. Even the bbc, who seem to be having a mini breakdown over the ruling, never treat TM given birth as a miracle, and make too big a deal of TW 'breastfeeding' for TM to be male and TW to be female.

They just have the ability to park that knowledge and then talk of sex as something else. I think its because they have convinced themselves that trans ideology is real and are having to find reasons to justify it.

So socially, TW fit into the WI because their social experience matches that of women in the group.

How, exactly?

Nobody who pretends not to know what sex is would ever put a male and a female rabbit in the same cage.

Well quite!

She taught me at university in the 1980s and is pretty good but even then (and now) our politics are worlds apart. I am sure she has always tried in her judgments in court simply to apply the law but she has always had a feel of "oke left" about her (mind you I was in the Federation of Young Conservatives as it then was in the 1980s and today vote Tory so she and I are very unlikely to be on the same page on many issues).

People like Lady Hale actually remind me of that John Bird quote:

' Sometimes I think I would like to be a liberal - they are the nicest people. But I couldn't be that gullible and their ideas are stupid.'

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If they were genuinely so very sensitive of feeling, they would be heartbroken for women being raped in prisons, in hospitals and at far higher risk in unisex facilities.

They only care about appearing caring. As a previous poster put it so well, luxury views.

I hope her or her daughter end up in a situation where they have need a pressing need for single sex facilities. Might teach them a lesson.

The social experience is limited to hair, clothes and entering female spaces, none of which they can experience as women anyway. It's never taking the dog to the vet, caring for elderly parents, night wakings with kids and sorting out the car insurance. And any woman who doesn't do those things is still a woman.

I was in Costa Coffee earlier today when I read that from Lady Hale and I immediately thought if I had her beside me I'd ask her if she genuinely couldn't know the biological sex of every single person in the coffee shop with us.
We all know. It's like someone obstinately insisting that there's no such thing as dogs because cats also have fur and tails.
It's so exceedingly stupid, it's hard to find words for it.

So socially, TW fit into the WI because their social experience matches that of women in the group. The medical pathway says that if science can allow an infertile women to conceive and give birth, its only a matter of time before TW can too. Therefore sex doesnt exist, even if at this time the idea of a man giving birth is theoretical.

Apparently forgetting that e.g. IVF is not free, and that this theoretical treatment for men would be sex specific.

Trans ideology has two ways to get to TWAW. One way being that woman is a social role linked, but not mapped exactly, to sex, the other way is more transhuman - that sex can be altered through surgery and drugs.

So socially, TW fit into the WI because their social experience matches that of women in the group. The medical pathway says that if science can allow an infertile women to conceive and give birth, its only a matter of time before TW can too. Therefore sex doesnt exist, even if at this time the idea of a man giving birth is theoretical.

I think activists claim that TW will be excluded from society - employment, housing, healthcare, on boards, because we are ignoring these social and medical pathways, forcing TW to hide from society?

A board could still be made up entirely of trans people.

Imagine, a board of ten, five transwomen and five transmen, with the TWs being called she and the TMs he. A recipe for total confusion, I think.

I wonder what kind of brooch would be a reference to The Who's song I'm A Boy (1966)
I'm a boy, I'm a boy
But my ma won't admit it
I'm a boy, I'm a boy
But if I say I am, I get it

which was going to be part of a concept album about a dystopian future where parents could choose the gender of their children, and in this case they were 'mis-sold' a male child so they 'transed' him.

The Who abandoned the idea, but unfortunately society didn't...

And of course she’s entirely missing the point. A talented transwoman might indeed be an excellent addition to her board.

But that transwoman will still be counted as a male board member in the reported figures.

Would she really think her board was balanced fairly if it consisted hypothetically of half men and half transwomen?

Good question. She’s just A.N. Other president in the case. I wish someone would point that out to her.

I can’t believe she had such power yet is so dim.

It's not at all clear why anyone would think that the SC ruling would prevent trans people being on boards.

A board could still be made up entirely of trans people.

Surely if Lady Hale wants to appoint someone to ‘her board’ there’s no law to stop her - just don’t let a man pretending to be a woman take an actual woman’s place just one from the men! Surely there’s nothing wrong with that!

I was going to say exactly the same.

Unless she's been misreported and she has actually said something which is entirely different, it shows that experts when talking about things outside their own field can be as ignorant as the rest of us. She is not a medical Dr to my knowledge. Even if she were, there are many Drs who don't belong to the Beth Upton school of medicine.