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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions
Datun · 24/05/2025 12:28

Christ. We're just talking about a bloody unisex toilet. These men need to get a fucking grip.

As soon as the updated guidance is published we'll have to go through all this again.

Fortunately the actual protesting lends itself to the argument for single sex spaces more than anything else. Who wants these violent, shouty, angry men in their spaces??

But it's bloody tedious while it's ongoing.

And I hope the EHCR recognises that it's really fuck all to do with toilets, and all about how dare they confirm that women shouldn't be validation tools for these men.

RinklyRomaine · 24/05/2025 10:41

Hilarious when you consider if the vast majority of them actually used the thing, all the Be Kinders would change their minds at the reality of 6ft Jonathan standing like a docker with his wang hanging out of his fishnets.

DeanElderberry · 24/05/2025 10:36

YourAmplePlumPoster · 24/05/2025 08:17

If it's dangerous for a transwoman to be in a male loo why is it not dangerous for men to be in women's loos?

Tsk, we've been told time and time again that using logic is NOT FAIR.

YourAmplePlumPoster · 24/05/2025 08:17

AInightingale · 23/05/2025 09:30

Only a man could decide quite deliberately to present as a woman, put a skirt and makeup on and grow his hair out, then whine about men's bogs being 'too dangerous' to enter. It's an entirely self-inflicted problem and I've no sympathy whatsoever for them, and I don't see why firms should beggar themselves providing 'third spaces'. If a third space really is needed, it's family toilets for parents etc.

If it's dangerous for a transwoman to be in a male loo why is it not dangerous for men to be in women's loos?

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 23/05/2025 09:40

WallaceinAnderland · 22/05/2025 19:05

It's enough to drive U round the bend.

Round the U bend?

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 23/05/2025 09:38

We need to move the conversation on from ridiculous things like bathrooms and onto the things that matter. And that is the safety of trans people everywhere.

Blimey. Saying the quiet part out loud. Women and girls don't matter. Only the people men with special identities.

AInightingale · 23/05/2025 09:30

Only a man could decide quite deliberately to present as a woman, put a skirt and makeup on and grow his hair out, then whine about men's bogs being 'too dangerous' to enter. It's an entirely self-inflicted problem and I've no sympathy whatsoever for them, and I don't see why firms should beggar themselves providing 'third spaces'. If a third space really is needed, it's family toilets for parents etc.

HelenaWaiting · 23/05/2025 00:41

Where are trans people supposed to go?

Transmen - the ladies
Transwomen - as with all biological males, partly in the toilet, partly on the floor around the toilet (but always in the gents, please).

Toseland · 23/05/2025 00:07

ArabellaScott · 22/05/2025 22:43

Oh really?! I hadnt grasped that they actually paid someone for this. Oh, my days.

And this design firm is supposed.to be reputable, are they?! 😂

I'm not sure if someone has paid for it or if BBH (who once were a highly reputable agency, famous for ad campaigns like Levis in the 1980s) has donated creative work hours out of the kindness of their hearts?!

Merrymouse · 22/05/2025 22:48

Practically speaking I would guess that there is a Costa within 5 minute’s walking distance from the Suprene Court and they usually have unisex loos.

ArabellaScott · 22/05/2025 22:45

I guess it can be refurbished for the next piss protest. Maybe a carnival float parade, with loo roll streamers, toilet duck face, and a bevvy of moob flashers?

There's space on the line up.

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ArabellaScott · 22/05/2025 22:43

Toseland · 22/05/2025 21:38

Dear lord, BBH?! One of the most expensive design agencies in the country - now much did that cost? I thought the trans were all poor oppressed things? Sack the bloody design team that worked on this shit concept. It doesn't work. If you want to move away from toilets being the focus don't show toilets as the focus you raving, gender-addled grievance* idiots!
(*nods to Barry)

Oh really?! I hadnt grasped that they actually paid someone for this. Oh, my days.

And this design firm is supposed.to be reputable, are they?! 😂

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Toseland · 22/05/2025 21:38

Dear lord, BBH?! One of the most expensive design agencies in the country - now much did that cost? I thought the trans were all poor oppressed things? Sack the bloody design team that worked on this shit concept. It doesn't work. If you want to move away from toilets being the focus don't show toilets as the focus you raving, gender-addled grievance* idiots!
(*nods to Barry)

DuesToTheDirt · 22/05/2025 20:44

You would think that these males had never stepped foot in a men's toilet, it seems to be so traumatic for them to even contemplate such a thing. But of course they all did, in most cases for years and years, before they decided they were really women and couldn't possibly use the men's.

BiologicalRobot · 22/05/2025 20:39

The question at the heart of their campaign is “where, exactly, are trans people supposed to go?”

I guess they "forgot" to read the very clear judgment that was quite specific on that subject. Total numpties 🙄

YorkshirePuddingsGreatestFan · 22/05/2025 20:34

about being forced to exist without safety, privacy, and rights, in full view of a society that refuses to see us; a demand for legal clarity, human dignity, and real, lived safety for all trans people

On the other hand if we allow biological men into woman's facilities, then women are forced to exist without safety, privacy and rights, in full view of dominant males that refuse to see us. We demanded legal clarity for our human dignity and real lived safety for all women.

SerafinasGoose · 22/05/2025 20:19

Kinell. Is nothing sacred?

Actually, given the century-later debacle over women's bogs, forget I asked that ....

HappyNewTaxYear · 22/05/2025 20:03

MarieDeGournay · 22/05/2025 19:45

Fourth space. It's a fourth space. The accessible toilet is the third space. Funny how disabled people's rights just fade into nothingness in their campaign, isn't it?

Sadly this is exactly what you’d expect from people who spend all their time thinking about themselves. ALL their time.

ArabellaScott · 22/05/2025 19:59

https://news.artnet.com/art-world/duchamp-fountain-dispute-2379304?amp=1

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ArabellaScott · 22/05/2025 19:58

SerafinasGoose · 22/05/2025 18:54

Bet Marcel Duchamp alias R Mutt is shitting himself.

You know he stole that artwork? From a woman.

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MrsOvertonsWindow · 22/05/2025 19:56

There's an irony that the head of Translucent organised protests outside women's conferences like FILIA where Steph's mates felt emboldened to issue threats of sexual violence against women. Yet Steph thinks women should welcome these abusers into single sex spaces with women and girls.

That's where spending your time trying to silence & threaten women gets you Steph - peeing in a toilet on the steps outside the Supreme Court.
You've got what you deserve. 😂

MarieDeGournay · 22/05/2025 19:45

Fourth space. It's a fourth space. The accessible toilet is the third space. Funny how disabled people's rights just fade into nothingness in their campaign, isn't it?

Merrymouse · 22/05/2025 19:27

Their problem is that they already have the answers to all these questions.

Where services are segregated by sex, use the service for your sex. If this is means you can't use the service for any reason, steps should be taken to reasonably accommodate your needs, e.g. unisex provision where possible.

Trans people have the same rights to safety, privacy and dignity as everyone else and this has not changed.

WallaceinAnderland · 22/05/2025 19:05

It's enough to drive U round the bend.

YourAmplePlumPoster · 22/05/2025 18:58

Is there no end to this crap mainly performed by trendy lefties?

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