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Jolyon Maugham says his wife was targeted in changing room

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BobLobla · 22/05/2025 09:35

On Bluesky yesterday. Sorry if there’s already a thread but I couldn’t see one. The replies would indicate this is a common thing. Really?

Jolyon Maugham says his wife was targeted in changing room
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Merrymouse · 22/05/2025 10:36

I wonder if there is an alternative universe where we are still in the EU and Maugham is still a tax lawyer.

Probably not. There would have to be no twitter too.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 22/05/2025 10:35

The Maugham's have two children who identify as trans, and have gone down the medical route. They need to think they are right, or they will need to face what they have facilitated for their children.

Rightsraptor · 22/05/2025 10:34

I know nothing of Mrs M or I didn't until today, anyway. Could she herself have made her cancer, and consequently her double mastectomy, public? Some people do go public with such things for a host of reasons. If so, Jolyon wouldn't be breaching her privacy.

But what really struck me was that she must surely have been in a women's single sex changing room in order to be challenged? If it was mixed sex anybody could use it, therefore no challenge.

So what are the Maughams doing using single sex changing spaces, with their pro-trans & gender ID beliefs, when they should be flag bearers for mixed sex spaces?

(I don't believe it either)

TUCKINGFYP0 · 22/05/2025 10:30

Merrymouse · 22/05/2025 10:04

A double mastectomy does not make you look like a man. It makes you look like a woman who has had a double mastectomy.

Not clear what planet Maugham is living on.

This.

It’s disgusting that he is trying to scare women who are going through treatment from breast cancer. Just when you thought he couldn’t stoop any lower.

yourhairiswinterfire · 22/05/2025 10:30

I find it interesting that the Maughams are loaded but Claire seems to be using swimming baths that allow any old riff-raff and ''vigilantes'' in. I always imagined the stinking rich would use private, swanky ones where everyone knows everyone.

OldCrone · 22/05/2025 10:27

DrDameKatyDeniseInExile · 22/05/2025 10:17

I’m confused, so according to JoMoFoKimono
having your breasts removed literally makes you a man, but conversely, having your breasts removed literally doesn’t make you a man?
Schrödinger’s Boobs?

Maybe he feels marooned in a sea of cognitive dissonance, because his ideology suggests that his wife's mastectomy means that she's now a man, and he's now in a same-sex marriage. But he knows that she's still a woman. So confusing for poor Jolyon trying to make sense of his fantasy world.

UrsulasHerbBag · 22/05/2025 10:27

“So the Maugham's don't understand the GC position. As such, this scenario probably sounded plausible in their heads but doesn't make much sense to anyone else.”

Yes. This.

yourhairiswinterfire · 22/05/2025 10:26

Not clear what planet Maugham is living on.

He's such a strange man-he's been having a month long mantrum all because women's rights don't belong to men.

CM's BS posts show she seems to think it is GC's who believe having body parts removed turns a woman into a man (as if it's not gender ideology that has teenagers and women removing their breasts to become 'men' or 'neither sex'.)

So the Maugham's don't understand the GC position. As such, this scenario probably sounded plausible in their heads but doesn't make much sense to anyone else.

UrsulasHerbBag · 22/05/2025 10:25

I saw this yesterday and just thought “bollocks”. Then I thought what an utter prick using his wife’s illness to prove a nonsense point. If she was challenged as a man in the ladies changing room I would be very surprised (she doesn’t look like a man breasts or no breasts). Then I saw her comments about expecting it to happen to her and just thought “bollocks” again.

Helleofabore · 22/05/2025 10:25

DrDameKatyDeniseInExile · 22/05/2025 10:17

I’m confused, so according to JoMoFoKimono
having your breasts removed literally makes you a man, but conversely, having your breasts removed literally doesn’t make you a man?
Schrödinger’s Boobs?

I don’t believe he thought through his post at all.

Helleofabore · 22/05/2025 10:24

The way that he has presented this incident doesn’t seem believable.

Enough4me · 22/05/2025 10:21

Yatuway · 22/05/2025 10:14

Not the first time he's been a tad creepy about personal things pertaining to his wife. This has a bit of the same energy as the kimono anecdote, notwithstanding that appeared to be true whereas he's obviously bullshitting here. Her breasts, her nightwear, her changing room experience. All to be shared with millions of people, for clout, on his huge social media platform. I can't put my finger on it exactly but I don't like it.

I agree what a creepy man he is!

FiveBarGate · 22/05/2025 10:17

potpourree · 22/05/2025 09:52

As JM is a lawyer who is known to be dishonest, I'd assume that "was challenged" technically means she found something difficult to do, or that someone suggested they have a race or something.

Unfortunately BC is very common and you'd have to be fairly unusual not to have encountered a woman with a mastectomy before.

I'd love to know exactly what does make her a woman, but JM is far too dishonest to ever suggest what he considers that to be.

Exactly. Most of us have come across mastectomies in our friends and families.

I can't see how I would mistake anyone with them for a man. In fact the argument even then doesn't make sense. At worst you might think a person with those scars a trans man (and therefore a woman) which would be fine in a women's changing room.

So is it about the scars or being flat chested - because I was very much so in my skinny younger days and no one thought I was a man despite wearing jeans and hoodies and having short hair.

DrDameKatyDeniseInExile · 22/05/2025 10:17

I’m confused, so according to JoMoFoKimono
having your breasts removed literally makes you a man, but conversely, having your breasts removed literally doesn’t make you a man?
Schrödinger’s Boobs?

JasmineAllen · 22/05/2025 10:17

The more I hear about JM the more I think he is a prize nob, but parading his wifes' cancer diagnosis and double mastectomy on the internet as some sort of weird made up 'look what happened isn't it terrible?' is a new low even by his standards.

Yatuway · 22/05/2025 10:14

Not the first time he's been a tad creepy about personal things pertaining to his wife. This has a bit of the same energy as the kimono anecdote, notwithstanding that appeared to be true whereas he's obviously bullshitting here. Her breasts, her nightwear, her changing room experience. All to be shared with millions of people, for clout, on his huge social media platform. I can't put my finger on it exactly but I don't like it.

PetaltotheMedal · 22/05/2025 10:11

What's the bet Jolyon is raging at any sympathy offered towards his wife after this alleged occurrence - he's the one hard done by in all of this!

Kucinghitam · 22/05/2025 10:09

IDareSay · 22/05/2025 09:56

https://x.com/anyabike/status/1925454904866304323

"The woman who posted this invective on Bluesky a month ago has now, according to her husband, been "challenged" by "vigilantes" at the swimming pool. Meanwhile she has deleted these posts. What are the chances? And has the cat got her tongue?"

Well, it looks like the two Maughams really deserve each other.

Merrymouse · 22/05/2025 10:06

TheCatsTongue · 22/05/2025 09:57

"Her breasts were not what make her a woman"

Is this the same man demanding people get access to "gender affirming care" like breast enlargements because that helps men become women?

Or that women should get their breasts removed if their gender isn't sufficiently feminine.

Merrymouse · 22/05/2025 10:04

A double mastectomy does not make you look like a man. It makes you look like a woman who has had a double mastectomy.

Not clear what planet Maugham is living on.

WhereAreWeNow · 22/05/2025 10:02

OldCrone · 22/05/2025 09:56

Amazing that 6-foot plus men like Robin Moira White have used women's toilets for years with no problem (or so he says), but when a small, short-haired woman has a mastectomy, she's immediately challenged as being in the wrong place.

Oh god, I've met RMW in real life. If I met him in the toilet I wouldn't challenge him, not because I'd be perfectly happy to welcome him into a women's space, but because I'd be scared to challenge a man (especially in a secluded space).
It's wild how our fearful silence is being construed as enthusiastic consent.

CompleteGinasaur · 22/05/2025 10:01

It's all my eye and Bertie Martin.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 22/05/2025 10:01

I wonder what the Maughams talk about round the dinner table in the evening. I hadn't realised his wife was also posting away about this, but not surprising, given they have apparently swung behind two trans-identified children now.

KkkIt · 22/05/2025 09:59

I don't get this. If she had a mastectomy then it must mean she was mistaken for a transman ie a female. But then she is still in the right changing room for her sex. It wouldn't therefore be a "terf" that challenged her. Did a TRA think she was a traitor for not using the men's?

FortyElephants · 22/05/2025 09:59

I don't believe him