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Jolyon Maugham says his wife was targeted in changing room

209 replies

BobLobla · 22/05/2025 09:35

On Bluesky yesterday. Sorry if there’s already a thread but I couldn’t see one. The replies would indicate this is a common thing. Really?

Jolyon Maugham says his wife was targeted in changing room
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LesserCelandine · 22/05/2025 13:52

Once you have supported your children to harms themselves, in the name of gender ideology, you have to keep believing or face up to what you have done to your children.

Datun · 22/05/2025 13:42

RedToothBrush · 22/05/2025 13:25

You assume he believes this and isn't merely a grifter...

I think he's both.

Otherwise it would be too monstrous to sacrifice your wife and children for the sake of grifting.

He needs to make a living, and this fits in with his sexist ideology and mindset, so he's just married the two together.

And the paranoia and persecution complex that appears to kick in like clockwork for transactivists looks like it's already underway.

He can't claim victimhood for himself, because he's not trans, but he's claiming it for his wife. Even going so far as to claim it's vigilantes!

pound to a penny her withdrawal from Twitter will be laid at the door of gender critical feminists

More persecution and paranoia on the way...

MyPresumablyScrotum · 22/05/2025 13:34

I see she has also been dishonest on her Twitter account saying "gender criticals think women must have and not have certain body parts"

No, that's what the Maughams think.

TheHereticalOne · 22/05/2025 13:31

I think you're all horrible meanies to suggest that this didn't happen.

Speaking as someone who identifies as having a bridge to sell, I am much more interested in hearing from those who believe it did...

tobee · 22/05/2025 13:28

teawamutu · 22/05/2025 09:38

I wouldn't trust him to tell me the time.

I love that pie chart!

TheCatsTongue · 22/05/2025 13:26

Thingybob · 22/05/2025 11:49

Given his personal circumstances, I can't understand why Jolyon spends so much time fighting for transwomen to access women's single sex facilities. Why isn't his focus on the young female NB and trans masc cohort who surely need to use either female spaces or gender neutral ones.

Follow the money.

His grifting campaigns raise money from the angry men on trans reddit. They're not interested in any biological women, except when they can be used as a human shield.

yourhairiswinterfire · 22/05/2025 13:25

It's extraordinary that not only do they not know what women are talking about, they've actually got it backwards!

The result of blocking loads of women they've never even communicated with so they don't have to risk seeing something that challenges their precious ideology.

RedToothBrush · 22/05/2025 13:25

Datun · 22/05/2025 12:44

Oh my God. How did this man even pass an exam.

And how could he not have matured beyond the Just William school of lying to prove a point.

This ideology addles the brain. Between him and India Willoughby, the descent is really shocking.

I'm forced to conclude that the profound sexism that leads people to believe in it also massively affects other parts of their psyche.

I can't think of a single proponent of transgenderism who doesn't come across as unhinged. Not one.

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You assume he believes this and isn't merely a grifter...

OvaHere · 22/05/2025 13:23

Gosh what are the chances of this happening to JM's wife of all people?

The same JM who is raising hundreds of thousands to challenge the SC judgment. You couldn't make this up!

MoistVonL · 22/05/2025 13:17

Goodluckanddontfitup · 22/05/2025 10:49

I don’t think anyone thinks this. But I think certain ignorant people could see no breasts and with the hyper focus on males in female areas at the moment, jump to incorrect conclusions

Those people are almost always male, not women in the female changing rooms at the pool.

Women and children are good at correctly sexing people. Men are not nearly as good at it (I suppose no evolutionary advantage) and are more likely to see “boobs=female”

BackToLurk · 22/05/2025 13:07

RedToothBrush · 22/05/2025 11:26

It's not a very confusing world.

Women don't matter to Maugham. They are there to be used as service humans. Understand that and it's not difficult to work out why two of his daughters might wish to be male and And then the only woman that would marry such a man is one who goes along with it, without questioning.

I cannot lie*. I wasn’t really confused

*unlike the kimonoed fox slaughterer

Datun · 22/05/2025 13:07

I'm mean, why do they think we keep banging on about no, cutting your penis off doesn't make you a woman? It's literally the opposite of what she's saying.

And if she already floated this idea a month ago, you'd think they would've given it the smallest thought.

It's extraordinary that not only do they not know what women are talking about, they've actually got it backwards!

And these are the people who have been trusted with, what is it, half a million quid, to challenge the Supreme Court ruling!!

Datun · 22/05/2025 12:55

It would appear that neither Mr or Mrs Maugham understand what they're talking about.

Gender critical means being critical of gender stereotypes.

In this context, it means you don't believe that gender stereotypes make someone a man or a woman.

Nothing to do with being flat chested!

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 22/05/2025 12:53

WhereAreWeNow · 22/05/2025 10:02

Oh god, I've met RMW in real life. If I met him in the toilet I wouldn't challenge him, not because I'd be perfectly happy to welcome him into a women's space, but because I'd be scared to challenge a man (especially in a secluded space).
It's wild how our fearful silence is being construed as enthusiastic consent.

consent accident innit?

Jolyon is not at all well in my view. This sort of behaviour is just one of the many things that makes me feel for his children. you're supposed to be the grown up Jolyon. You make the kind, hard decisions. Except you don't, do you?

Merrymouse · 22/05/2025 12:53

potpourree · 22/05/2025 12:46

Exactly.
I see she has also been dishonest on her Twitter account saying "gender criticals think women must have and not have certain body parts".

No, that's not the same as 'sex exists and sometimes it matters', ie the thing that GC people believe. Why try and mislead people if you're sure you're right? It's an odd way to behave.

She is manufacturing the argument that she would rather oppose.

Gets you likes on social media, but not very effective in court. Perhaps that is why JM loses so much.

Datun · 22/05/2025 12:51

He's also claiming that the people challenging her were vigilantes!

In a public place, and her husband being a trigger happy lawyer!

Seriously.

It. addles. the. brain

potpourree · 22/05/2025 12:49

Justnot · 22/05/2025 11:06

He’s like a toddler behind a curtain thinking we can’t see him

This nails it Grin

potpourree · 22/05/2025 12:46

KkkIt · 22/05/2025 09:59

I don't get this. If she had a mastectomy then it must mean she was mistaken for a transman ie a female. But then she is still in the right changing room for her sex. It wouldn't therefore be a "terf" that challenged her. Did a TRA think she was a traitor for not using the men's?

Exactly.
I see she has also been dishonest on her Twitter account saying "gender criticals think women must have and not have certain body parts".

No, that's not the same as 'sex exists and sometimes it matters', ie the thing that GC people believe. Why try and mislead people if you're sure you're right? It's an odd way to behave.

Datun · 22/05/2025 12:44

Oh my God. How did this man even pass an exam.

And how could he not have matured beyond the Just William school of lying to prove a point.

This ideology addles the brain. Between him and India Willoughby, the descent is really shocking.

I'm forced to conclude that the profound sexism that leads people to believe in it also massively affects other parts of their psyche.

I can't think of a single proponent of transgenderism who doesn't come across as unhinged. Not one.

PetaltotheMedal · 22/05/2025 12:28

I'm not sure what point you're trying to make.

That we should shut up? Perchance even cease to exist? But then who would they have to criticise and blame.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 22/05/2025 12:10

Merrymouse · 22/05/2025 11:35

If people really thought butch lesbians were like men, that would translate into male advantage. However I can’t think of a single woman who has gained social capital in this way.

It’s only in ‘bathrooms’ that we hear about this, which suggests homophobia rather than actual concern.

Excellent point.

SmallSoupcon · 22/05/2025 12:05

MagpiePi · 22/05/2025 11:31

I used to regularly see a transman in an open plan swimming pool changing room. I never once thought she was a man. Not even with mastectomy scars, a wispy beard and slightly growly voice.

I was at a cafe recently and was served by a transman. Massive shoulders, again a sparse and very dark goatee, but very obviously female from the voice, face, frame, height and delicate features. There would clearly be no need to challenge this person in a ladies' loo. Not that I'd challenge a man anyway for reasons previously covered!

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 22/05/2025 12:04

EsmeShelby · 22/05/2025 11:51

If this was true JM would absolutely name and shame the swimming pool concerned. It's not true.

And his wife would back him up, which she hasn’t and has even deactivated her account.

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 22/05/2025 12:02

Goodluckanddontfitup · 22/05/2025 11:08

Ok I take it all back. Women are all perfect,
mean girls don’t exist. The end.

What an interesting take, no one has suggested that women are all perfect, we’re simply saying that we find it extremely unlikely that any woman would feel the need to question a woman’s sex because she’d had a mastectomy, because we can obviously see that she’s a woman.

Brefugee · 22/05/2025 11:55

NecessaryScene · 22/05/2025 09:51

I believe it's true in itself.

Curious that she posted a few weeks earlier about it as a hypothetical thing that might happen to her while constructing her own fantasy arguments.

someone on twitter posted her screenshots from Bluesky and then screenshots of his X posts.

And her bluesky posts are no longer there. Good that people collect receipts.