Jolyon Maugham says his wife was targeted in changing room

This.

Or in other words; cool (made up) story, bro.

I wonder whether we could set out a JoMo bingo card predicting all the things he's going to invent next.

Nah.

Do you know how I think this is going to pan out? JM himself will make a massive announcement saying that he is also trans, it’ll be his last, desperate attempt to keep the grift going. Seriously, Joanne Maugham step forward 😂😂

I have no idea if this is true or not. It might have happened. Or it might not have happened. I would be amazed if it were true. That is just my personal opinion though.

However, there is another possible scenario. Just for arguments sake, there could also have been an arranged ‘challenge’, or ‘query’. In order to be able to say, hand on heart, that there truly was a ‘challenge’ of the type that was previously mooted by said persons on twitter. A real life enactment of an imagined scene, so to speak. Not saying there was. But there could have been. We do know that exact fictional scenario was mooted by one of the said characters, and amplified by another of the said characters. Then ‘whoosh’ the post with the fictional play was deleted from twitter, and what do you know, it was alleged to be a real life occurrence.

Or maybe such an incredible thing happened.

You know when your six year old comes home from school telling a story about what one of their mates has told them and it's obviously their friend making up total bullshit?

That.

He’s so full of shit

So we are simultaneously meant to believe his wife gets challenged in changing rooms while TW who may be built like a brick shithouse claim to have been using women’s facilities without problem for years?

Utter nonsense

In my younger days I was once the designated driver for 3 friends at a party, As I drove them home in the early hours of the morning, I was stopped by the police. Of course the car was stinking of alcohol and they breathalysed me,even though I’d only had soft drinks.

Of course I passed the test and they send me on my way politely .

Which proves that our drink driving laws are wrong, I was entitled to dignity and protection from vigilantes like those police officers. We need to repeal all drink driving laws and let everyone drive after consuming the amount of alcohol and drugs they feel comfortable with .

Transwoman are better at womaning than women, stupid.

(See India's comment about JKR for reference)

It's amazing how women are suddenly being questioned, whereas transwomen have never been questioned because they pass so well. Is this because transwomen are not only women, they're also so much better at womaning than we are?
As someone who's 'as flat as a pancake' and with short hair, I haven't been questioned ever.
But then I'm not a TRA, so there's that.

Tweet from glosswitch sums it up.

https://x.com/glosswitch/status/1925527836896436399?t=hBWpkapRCPVAe-Ad-ZR2Ew&s=19

In witch trials, prosecutors justified inventing or even staging 'evil' events on the basis that they could have happened and it was therefore virtuous to pretend that they already had. Dunno why this just popped into my head.

Pious fraud (Latin: pia fraus) is used to describe fraud in religion or medicine. A pious fraud can be counterfeiting a miracle or falsely attributing a sacred text to a biblical figure due to the belief that the 'end justifes the means", in this case the end of increasing faith by whatever means available.

But 'Be Kind'.

Cos 'being kind' always leads to good things rather than telling some necessary home truths...

If Maugham's kids have both transitioned there is a fair chance they are autistic. And we autism runs in families.

This almost seems like a fixation.

The issue I have is that Maugham is supposedly a clever man. If he did tax he would have had an eye for detail. There's no way that he doesn't know that deep down the legal arguments he's coming up with to challenge the supreme court aren't weak as fuck and a pile of arse.

Literally the only real tool in the arsenal he has at this point is to go down the vexatious litigation route to try and intimidate and make others capitulate / settle. Process is punishment and all that.

The trouble is with that is we are now at a point where that's really not going to wash and women will fight back.

Isn’t Jolyons wife Claire of Indonesian heritage ? That country well know for 6ft foot tall women with broad shoulders.

That's because all the TW are unable to leave their homes because they've been banned from peeing or all sport. Allegedly.

I mean it's one thing to fudge facts in support of a cause you believe in - though I think barristers should avoid doing so.

But Jolyon seems to be turning into one of those small boys you sometimes meet who tell you that their dad is a hitman for the CIA, or space aliens landed in their garden last Saturday.

Well, clearly someone could...

I've seen his wife, nobody challenged her, nobody thought she might be a man, he is 100% lying and the lies will keep coming. I don't know how he can use his wife and her health issues in this cynical way and I wonder how she feels about that? He's a turd of a man who must really hate women.

Any stories of feminine males being attacked by vigilantes in the men’s? I thought this was the issue, but it’s all seems very quiet.

I can believe that butch-looking women 'might' be challenged more in recent times than in the past, but surely that would be down to the rather fevered climate that has been created by media fuss about this so-called massive upheaval, which is of course nothing of the sort. Women now having every reason to believe that there are much bigger numbers of males in women's spaces than there ever were previously.

Isn’t it astonishing how many TW have “been using the ladies for years and never been challenged” but also “ women who have some (not sure what to put here - more masculine coded characteristics?) are now being challenged regularly and often aggressively”

Really?

I know!! What are the chances? With odds like this flying around them they should rush out and buy a Euromillions ticket ASAP.

Jolyon: transwomen use the ladies' loo all the time and nobody ever notices

Also Jolyon: GC women are accosting women who use single sex spaces while not having big boobs

I think by now we know more about Jolyon's weird imagination than we ever needed to know.

And even if his (very obviously female) wife is 100% with him on this, it's still disgusting to use her illness as a prop in online arguments.

I saw a man in the women’s toilet the other day. It was at an event in an old manor house. The toilets were marked male and female but they weren’t near each other. He was an actual man, with a beard, dressed as a man, presenting as a man.

I was washing my hands when he came out of the cubicle. I am 50-something and not shy. In fact, I was actually speaking at the event.

Here’s what I did: I smiled at him. Felt a bit embarrassed. Washed my hands v quickly. Assumed I was in the wrong toilet. Checked the door on the way out and realised he was wrong. Felt embarrassed for him. At no point did I challenge him.

And for that reason alone I don’t this story.

I completely agree. And now he's tied it in with his livelihood, too.

The pushback from the public, the clarification of laws, the withdrawal of dangerous medication, all of it helps with grifting, but only up to a point. With little to no success, people will stop donating.

But it doesn't help if your family are tied up in it.

I can just see him in the appalling situation of having to keep going, with the children becoming more emeshed while he earns less and less because of it.

See Jazz Jennings

If you think about it the Maugham’s are stuck in an endless cycle now, because they’re both so entrenched with this ideology by transing two of their children, how can either one of them say to the other ‘enough, this is too far’, because they’ve already gone too far haven’t they?

You can’t possibly row back from where they’ve put not only themselves, but their children. They can’t ever say to those two children that they got it wrong, what we’ve put you through is a total abdication of our parental responsibility. As Helen Joyce says, this will never end for these people or their children, they have set this pattern for life, and it’s just appalling.