Jolyon Maugham says his wife was targeted in changing room

Yes, you’d almost think these men were obsessed with staring at breasts, and don’t realise that women aren’t. Better not tell the ones who identify as women how very unfeminine their behaviour is ….

This is so true. My heart aches for the children and adolescents being caught up in this.

I’m old and have always used public toilets when I’m out. Never seen or heard of this happening. Never turned a hair if I see a ‘masculine’ looking woman, because I know she’s a woman.

If it’s started happening now, that’s purely because men have started intruding in women’s toilets. That’s harmful to women and, clearly, even more unfair to women who don’t fit the feminine stereotype.

It's remarkable.

Almost identical. And yet perfectly obvious. A really good example

Link that to the belief in JM's tweet last month that a man with an erection would be indistinguishable from a woman with a trans identity in the shower...

as if they wouldn't have mastectomy scars, a very severely scarred forearm and have had to stop to pump up their penis first via the mechanism in their thigh.

Oh yes that makes a lot of sense. So her daughters either have had or are aiming to have double mastectomy to make them look like men. She’s already had that done so now being told by her husband and daughters she is perceived as a man. As I guess JM also perceives all other cancer survivors with a double mastectomy.

The biggest omg ever.

It is interesting - our brains have evolved to respond to faces, which is why you see faces in the curtain patterns in the dark. Small babies respond to faces. Recognition is hard wired in.

If you start messing with the faces with surgery, it is confusing and works for a while - but once you are used to seeing these alterations, your brain goes back to seeing what it is.

And that is without the way the rest of the head and body is seen.

That's very good. As it says, so similar, yet so different.

He is a lying sack of shit. Women with 'A' size cups and flat chests exist. And no one ever mistakes them as boys as we women look at the FACE. Not the chest. That is how we know he's lying. No A cup women are mistaken for males. Look, no breasts in this picture, and see how obvious the sex is:

The whole concept makes zero sense. It only seems to work if you believe “masculine” looking women were never challenged before because people thought they were actually transwomen that just didn’t look very feminine (but were allowed in there because they had ladyfeelz). How unbelievably insulting is that?!

If people thought they were gender conforming men, they’d have been challenged anyway before the SC judgement.

Following TRA logic, if people thought they were transmen they’d have been challenged before the SC judgement because people would have “recognised” them as “actual men”, so they shouldn’t have been in the ladies’ anyway.

Or, they weren’t challenged because people saw they were transmen and therefore recognised them as women and fine to be in the ladies’ (because sex matters), so nothing has changed at all.

In what way would the world suddenly start challenging GNC women because it’s been confirmed legally that men aren’t allowed in women’s loos. It’s ridiculous.

“Trans” was never a shield for GNC women. As has been pointed out multiple times now, it also completely ignores the fact we all managed quite nicely before gender woo kicked off.

Yea. I always used to ask whether I should take my sons to the dr as they hadn’t started menstruating.

She has a photo posted on Linkedin taken in the last 3 or 4 weeks (?).

There's no way anyone could mistake her for a man or a transwoman

Of course she was. I'm guessing thousands of TRA types will have this happen to friends and family now.

Her argument is that stupid old biddies who believe in sex and reality think women are identifiable via a collection of parts such as genetics, physical characteristics, etc etc. (as opposed to a wholly unidentifiable and unverifiable 'inner essence' and gendered soul and beliefs). Therefore she is trying to claim that if she does not have one of those parts (because via medical reasons she once had them but they were removed) she is no longer identifiable as a woman. It's the same argument as 'I have never menstruated therefore I can't a woman by biological sex HA gotcha' which ignores that any girl who does not menstruate by a certain age would be medically investigated as an indicator of those existing parts not working properly.

It's bobbins. As always. With the sole aim of trying to force non consenting women to submit to men using them and their spaces.

I guess they have to pretend she no longer looks like a man or the promotion of bilateral mastectomies by their ideology is rather pointless.

Classic case of a man thinking a woman's body = tits and vag. Any woman could look at a foot / a leg / a hand / whatever and know with 99% accuracy if it was male or female. Pull the other one JoMo.

Definitely this.

Somethings gone drastically wrong with that family dynamic - the two daughters that now identify as trans and a wife that they pretend no longer looks like a woman because she has a double mastectomy!

Unfortunately it can’t ever be for the right reasons, because no one is born in the wrong body, no one needs puberty blockers or ghoulish, unnecessary surgery to affirm a mental health issue.

I totally agree @LadyBracknellsHandbagg , I was meaning if it was a medical necessity as was the case for their mother.

Havent rtft but I just want to express my rage that this dickhead is violating his wife’s dignity and privacy by using her body as a political lever for his own self aggrandizement.

‘Whatever these children go through I can only hope and pray it's for the right reasons and not because they've been pushed further down a path they should have been steered well away from before it was even in sight’

Unfortunately it can’t ever be for the right reasons, because no one is born in the wrong body, no one needs puberty blockers or ghoulish, unnecessary surgery to affirm a mental health issue. I think for some people, anything they can do to avoid acknowledging that their child has a MH issue is preferable, this way they can disassociate themselves from any responsibility, because if they’re child is ‘born in the wrong body’ how could that possibly be anything to do with them? All decisions are then taken out of their hands and made by ‘experts’ which again gives them plausible deniability.

He doesn’t say what she was challenged about, does he. He lets everyone assume it’s her sex.

Maybe she’s as much of an exhibitionist as he is and a couple of other women asked her to stop parading naked round the changing room yelling ANYONE WANT TO DONATE MONEY TO MY CROWDFUNDER, I’M SUEING THE SKY FOR BEING BLUE.

I was having thoughts along those lines yesterday. I was going to say something about the irony of the mother having a mastectomy to save her life but for her daughter(s), if she or they had the same surgery, it would be through choice in a terribly misguided attempt to try and solve their issues. Then I thought of the "Ha, got you!" brigade coming on saying "But it WOULD be life saving for the daughter - trans suicide!" (bingo).

Then I had BRCA gene thoughts and decided not to post at all.

Whatever these children go through I can only hope and pray it's for the right reasons and not because they've been pushed further down a path they should have been steered well away from before it was even in sight. I'm looking at the whole ideology when I say that.

It will be the same with the oft repeated narrative, but all my female friends, relatives and everybody at work doesn't mind me using the ladies. It's only you dried up old hags that have a problem.

Which will suddenly disappear entirely when unisex spaces become prevalent, and they're only used by men and men in dresses, or, more likely, just men in dresses.

Good point. And there's no way he wouldn't have double checked a tweet before pressing post. So to him, no matter which way he considered it, that looked absolutely fine.

Yes, lording it over women by telling them their spaces have long been infiltrated without them knowing, probably wasn't the best move.