India's outburst to JKR 'I will always be more of a woman than you.'

Today’s ‘trans apartheid’ filmed-in-the-car teary video was after a trip to the gym / sauna / pool.

I wonder if the leisure facility has followed the SC ruling and IW had been directed towards either the men’s or a third space.

@MarieDeGournay I see what you did there!
To transwomen, their rights and no more; to women, our rights and no less - cothrom na Féinne. That's fair, isn't it, a bhean Átha Cliath?

Someone's been reading lavvy doors in Dublin Bars, and it's deffo not you.

I've just watched that BB clip again for old time's sake.

Love how Amanda Barrie says to IW "you can't keep being temperamental!" and then gives him A LOOK. Carry on Cleo! 👏

you appear a little upset. foot-stampy, even.

Who are we to police them?

God, I know these people like trying to stick it to women, at the same time as telling them what to do. But it never ceases to amaze me why they think it would work??

Reducing themselves to playground level to insult women is every TRAs only line. It's as tedious as it is predictable.

i've kind of answered my own question, tho, they're not looking for a result, they just like doing it.

But I have to say, doing it to an audience of 12 million women when they're demanding access to the spaces of those very same women is probably not their best move.

Again.

Yes, yes he did.

Must be rage-provoking that no one is falling in line.

Other people also have rights and needs, and that includes women.

This. It's not all about your male entitlement as TW.

Jonathan once rather amusingly posted a video of himself dancing. I assume he imagined he looked very womanly but his body is entirely and obviously male, there is nothing feminine about him. Just because he's a man suffering from delusions and a persecution complex doesn't make him a women and he know it which is why he gets so angry at women telling him no.

Even look at his famous celeb big brother moment "I am a real woman" if you watch it he points at himself when saying "I am" and then as he says "a real woman" he points at an actual woman, not himself at all. He knows exactly what he is, he's a father for ffs!

In what way are trans people being oppressed? What rights do they not have that other people do?

Now that's just silly!

There is no similarity between 'what we endured as women to reach where we are today' - centuries of struggle - and the speed with which a tiny percentage of the population gained a puzzling amount of power over the legislature [notably in Ireland where there was zero scrutiny of the GRA and self-ID, it was waved through with the omnipresent assistance of TENI], the media, the medical profession, the educational establishment, language itself..

Who are we to police them? We are the women. The ones whose rights, and very identity, which we 'endured as women' to fight for over the centuries, have been appropriated by men who are not satisfied with their own rights as men, as transgender people, but have gone after ours too.

Defending our own rights and our own identity is not 'applying oppression' to anyone .

To transwomen, their rights and no more; to women, our rights and no less - cothrom na Féinne. That's fair, isn't it, a bhean Átha Cliath?

He automatically sided with the man. And slurred the woman.

Is he actually from Carlisle? Explains a lot if so 😁

You, and others, destroy our legacy

the legacy of ALL WOMEN. Who will all have an identical legacy. What a loon

Humans are not clownfish.

Well...

...Women!

This is not difficult.

Transwomen are not 'people like me' this is the point.

They have dangley bits and different chromosones.

@1MnaAthCliathwould you say that a female in prison should share a cell with a male who identifies as a trans woman?

This is the absolute crux of the whole 'movement'

Utter entitlement and Misogyny.

Patronising dribble. This doesn’t engage with the points raised or say anything useful.

Yes, trans people are people. It doesn’t mean that we have to erase all our boundaries to accommodate every single bloody demand they make. We live in a society, it is totally unreasonable for them to expect the whole world to pretend we don’t know their sex. They need to grow up and behave like adults not emotionally immature teenagers. Other people also have rights and needs, and that includes women.

Yeah those dirty bigots how dare they object to sharing with one man in particular who abused his 6 year old twin daughters and another who was found to have stored bottles of his semen in his cell for god knows what. India focused on one sentence in the article and purposely ignored the rest.

That's where the comparative "more of a woman" comes from, the effort he's put in. He's put in more effort = more of a woman than a woman who put no effort into becoming a woman

My next door neighbour is a woman. She has huger boobies than me. She is younger than me. She has long blonde hair and mine is short and dark. She has an attractive figure whereas I am dumpy. She is always groomed to within an inch of her life but, me being a carer, I just have time to shower and drag a comb through my hair. She gets botox for reasons I cannot fathom.
I'm sure she could pull a bloke in the pub, (not that she would, she's a very nice lady) but I struggle nowadays to get men not to look through me.

Does that make her more womany than me? Of course it doesn't because I am a woman regardless of the outer embellishements and the benefits of good physical genes.

And finally, with the video I once watched burning into the back of my eyes,
I don't know any ordinary women at all who, without being totally arseholed, would don a sequin frock and do sexy gyrations, presumably to flaunt her femininity. Unless you're Beyonce or a bloke in drag.

This is about MALES. The male sex. The oppressor sex class. Not 'trans people'.

Males are not being 'oppressed' because they can't use female spaces.

Read that again. Males, mostly fully intact with penis and testicles, are not being oppressed because they can't use female spaces.

Oppressed in the sense that they are all over the news telling us they are going to ignore the law.

@1MnaAthCliath

How are trans people oppressed, exactly? From where I'm standing, there's no oppression against trans people in the UK.

You must have lived one hell of a charmed life if you've reached adulthood and now find it an act of oppression to be asked to use the men's room if you're a man. I can't imagine how pampered you must have been to think it's an actual human right to get your cock out in the ladies'.

And even better to think there is a self selecting group of people who shouldn't have to be "policed" to follow the law and common decency; they should just get to opt out.

No wonder you lot are so angry if that's the level of pandering you've become used to.

Men are not oppressed by women

Transwomen are men. In my opinion, IW is a misogynist, racist and homophobe. He doesn’t get an ounce of sympathy from me.

No Jonathan is just a sad little man who is bitterly envious of actual women and hates them with a passion. He's a joke and his behaviour and appearance are very male.