India's outburst to JKR 'I will always be more of a woman than you.'

Are trans people currently very much oppressed?
I know that's the rhetoric, but in the UK is that true?
Full rights against discrimination, access to employment, housing etc.

Apart from not having access to opposite sex spaces, and no free access to whatever drugs they want (neither of which anyone else gets), what do they miss?

TW in particular seem if anything to be overrepresented in the media, and overly considered in the work place.

Hello Woman from Dublin.

Are you actually a woman? Or are you a Fear? Interesting you used Mna.

Mna= woman in Irish
atha Cliath = Dublin
Fear = man

Did you come on here to berate the good women on here who stand up for women’s rights, similar to how you attack J K Rowling? Failing miserable I might add.

Of course you will not be able to back up your claim that trans are the most oppressed.

You can tell us you choose to see India as a woman, but we all know he is a man and you do too. So your choice is a lie.

Now I understand why 1MnaAthCliath posted a (quickly deleted by the mods) thread with a cartoon trying to show how awful JKR is. I think your 'don't give a fuck' memes must have hit a nerve. Germaine Greer was onto something when she replied 'I don't care' in that rather infamous interview where she was given the 'be kind' line by the interviewer. I think that sometimes, 'I don't care/don't give a fuck' is the correct reply.

It’s called a Croydon facelift, pulls your eyes back too. Looks like that’s what he’s had done.

And blinking autocarrot...

transcrime.co.uk

... not transcribe!

Magnoliasunrise · Today 08:11

That's kind of the point, they have documented their own vileness, with images and messages.

Ah, I wondered where Morag MacGonagall went after we were told to change our names to ‘real’ ones [I notice there are still a lot of suspect names, regardless]. Am enjoying the comments. Sandra Duffy is desperately trying to argue that women wanting women’s only spaces are vile bigots, but getting short thrift from pretty much every one.

What the flying money with the unmemorable name said is so gaslighting, so close to the truth yet do dishonest.

Take a breath, poster, read again, this time with a wider lens, possibly including a sprinkling of humanity and think back at the history of what we endured as women to reach where we are today.
You, and others, destroy our legacy by claiming that the same oppression that was used against us actually applies to those who oppress us. You re-apply that oppression upon us for them.

I've subscribed to the Times for years. When they took anonymity away, I stopped posting but joined the people who still vote on comments.
There can be a few posters saying things along the lines of, "be kind", "bigot" and that kind of nonsense - they never have a reasonable explanation of why men need access to women's facilities. Funny that!

It does seem forever ago. A lot of The Times commenters took a while to move from 'why does this matter?' to the majority current stance.

I have a digital only subscription at the moment which is £5 per month and allows you to view 50 articles per month. I thought at first I'd use that up but I haven't so far as I don't read that many. Other than an article being linked here I mostly only read the site at any length on a weekend.

I don't know whether this is an advertised offer but I was offered it when I rang up to cancel after paying £20 odd per month for quite a few years and didn't feel I could justify the ongoing cost for the amount I was using it.

We have come a long way. I remember when Dr Henderson (under her alias as Morag MacGonagall, not sure about the exact name now, definitely Morag), Jo March, I and about another 10 people where the only commentators talking about women's rights underneath the few and far between articles about trans issues. Now her posts get thousands of recommends. It seems like a lifetime ago.

Thanks both. I suspect the Times has tweaked the settings somehow so you can’t see comments despite a share-token, which is very annoying! But they want you to sign up to a subscription, I guess….

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I pity Jolyon Maugham. He simply can’t accept that men will be men come what may.

As for J K Rowling, an absolute star who has stuck her head above the parapet in support of women who refuse to accept a nonsense ideology that seeks to diminish women’s rights. As if, having fought long and hard to win these rights last century, we’d give them up just because people like Maugham and his trans activist chums think women should acquiesce to men.
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Dang, I thought you could see comments with sharetokens, I can't really tell because I'm signed into my Times account on every device I have anyway.
There are close to 800 comments now and with a few exceptions they are all supportive of JKR.

Thanks for the share-token @Igneococcus but I couldn’t see any comments - were any enabled? Tbh I generally find these days that I can’t see them even with a share-token (I think they changed something in the settings because I’m sure I used to be able to)

Oh my!

How many times did that single article refer to Maugham's fox killing?!

Here is a sharetoken for those who want to read comments:
https://www.thetimes.com/article/67f6f74c-3cd6-4786-8702-c27d776d9a80?shareToken=12e27c163725e9aae8085c80794e4064

Documenting the abuse, harassment and misogyny of transgender identity politics.

This is the tag line from terfisaslur and yet from a quick look I couldn't see any documentation of "abuse, harassment and misogyny" just a bunch of incredibly offensive posts often violent and with lots of references to their dicks.

JKR even has her own section.

I'm very happy for JKR to be my voice.

Yes, it's been great! I couldn't agree more. I really do appreciate free news sites and don't mind the few seconds to decline cookies etc.

I swear that sites like archive.ph has done a fair bit of heavy lifting over the years to bring women (and men) together in this fight, by allowing free dissemination of media articles, information, news updates, opinion and ideas on sites like MN.

There’s no way many of us could carry subscriptions for every relevant newspaper and magazine, in the hope that someone might at some point actually print something.

Well, it's nothing new, that we didn't already know, but I was strangely pleased to see that the article called him "the Fox Batterer."

I wonder if Jonathan Ames reads FWR?

Thanks, it works!

Testing

Times article on JKR and Jolyon Maugham.

archive.ph/rhFoJ

The Times has ‘waded in’ to the row.

https://www.thetimes.com/uk/law/article/jk-rowling-jolyon-maugham-kc-feud-8fxdq39jn

I’ll try and archive it in a minute so all can read. (I’m on my dimmed phone in bed and don’t want to wake up the DP so it’s not easy.)