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India's outburst to JKR 'I will always be more of a woman than you.'

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frazzled1 · 20/05/2025 21:05

https://x.com/IndiaWilloughby/status/1924912102063345706

India not happy with JKR drawing a line. Very aggressive.

Jo, you are bitter and twisted. A modern-day Miss Havisham. Bought court. You know it - I know it. I will always be more of a woman than you. The way you and your ghastly gang pretend to be the voice of all women is disgusting. And a joke. Along with the fact your daily sick bullying of women is completely ignored by UK media. You represent the Gender Critical movement - not women. I hope your boat sinks. Go fuck yourself. Trash.

India's outburst to JKR 'I will always be more of a woman than you.'
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AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 21/05/2025 17:56

RedToothBrush · 21/05/2025 17:43

IW identifies being born in 1985 not 1965.

I wonder how many times he has tried to alter the date in Wikipedia!

ThatCyanCat · 21/05/2025 17:49

RedToothBrush · 21/05/2025 17:43

IW identifies being born in 1985 not 1965.

Oh no, please don't let him try to become a millennial as well. We have enough problems.

RedToothBrush · 21/05/2025 17:43

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 21/05/2025 17:38

IW, born 1965, claims he started using women's toilets at age 14, so in 1979 or so; sorry mate, I simply don't believe you. All that time ago you'd have been kindly but firmly given the bum's rush by every woman in the country who coincided with you in a women's public lavatory. And anyway, you don't seem to have decided you weren't a bloke until 2010 at the earliest. I definitely call bullshit on that claim.

IW identifies being born in 1985 not 1965.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 21/05/2025 17:38

WinterTrees · 21/05/2025 15:40

Wait, backtracking a bit (sorry if it's already been raised) but Willoughby claims to have been using women's toilets since he was 14??

Willoughby, who was a TV newsreader called Jonathan, who was married and fathered a son and didn't transition until (according to Wikipedia) he was 50 YEARS OLD, was using women's toilets for all that time? Have I got that right?

If so... WHAT. THE. FUCK?

IW, born 1965, claims he started using women's toilets at age 14, so in 1979 or so; sorry mate, I simply don't believe you. All that time ago you'd have been kindly but firmly given the bum's rush by every woman in the country who coincided with you in a women's public lavatory. And anyway, you don't seem to have decided you weren't a bloke until 2010 at the earliest. I definitely call bullshit on that claim.

Mmmnotsure · 21/05/2025 17:36

DialSquare · 21/05/2025 15:25

JKR could have chosen a different path

Thank fuck she didn’t.

You do have to wonder where we would be at this point if she hadn't. It needed to be a woman, which for resources, independence, and ability to overcome social conditioning severely limits the field (thanks, patriarchy).

lechiffre55 · 21/05/2025 17:33

PocketSand · 21/05/2025 17:31

@TonTonMacouteyeah yeah, it’s not fair/yeah yeah it’s not fair/I’m so upset/I’m so upset/I’m so upset/yeah yeah/I ought to smash his face in (Jilted John)

uncanny isn’t it?

@TonTonMacoute Also I think Gordon Is A Moron probably fits quite nicely here, but with the name changed of course.

PocketSand · 21/05/2025 17:31

@TonTonMacouteyeah yeah, it’s not fair/yeah yeah it’s not fair/I’m so upset/I’m so upset/I’m so upset/yeah yeah/I ought to smash his face in (Jilted John)

uncanny isn’t it?

Mmmnotsure · 21/05/2025 17:31

"Where once she stood tall and bright as a princess of prose now she is mocked, derided and rejected."

What an amazing sentence. God knows where you got the first part alliteration from, but then straight into Messiah.

akkakk · 21/05/2025 17:29

WallaceinAnderland · 21/05/2025 17:18

India has also claimed to both trans and 'cis' (which means actual woman, as in born female) in his bio. I would say you can't make it up but...

I think that he is referencing his journey from man to woman:

  • man
  • was then trans woman (trans)
  • now fully woman - therefore cis
i.e. stages...

that makes sense from his way of thinking - of course for everyone else it is batty / bonkers logic

WallaceinAnderland · 21/05/2025 17:24

But I won't deny her the agency of choosing her own identity.
If you see her as a woman, her own description and choice, then Rowling's (and others) comments are punching down. TRANS people are currently very much oppressed.

@1MnaAthCliath you'd better tell India that he is punching down on the most oppressed then.

I mean, what's good for the goose...

India's outburst to JKR 'I will always be more of a woman than you.'
CautiousLurker01 · 21/05/2025 17:24

SabrinaThwaite · 20/05/2025 21:55

Willoughby claimed that the Supreme Court had been ‘bought’.

Cue some entertaining replies.

Surely this constitutes defamation? Of the SC judges, that is? WIlloughby is saying they were bought. Now I appreciate that they’d need to prove loss of reputation or financial loss, but surely people cannot say things like this and go without consequences?

CapitalAtRisk · 21/05/2025 17:21

Poor Jenni Murray. Hounded out of the BBC for daring not to believe the fairy tale.

AuntMunca · 21/05/2025 17:20

Memoryhole · 21/05/2025 16:57

i remember Willoughby on WH, years ago, when he opined that women should wear tights and shave their legs otherwise it was unhygienic. Jenny Murray informed him that women’s body hair had been a feminist issue for quite some time. He didn’t seem to take any notice.

It was listening to IW on this edition of WH that first led me to MN and thus to understanding the madness of gender ideology - so I suppose I should really be grateful to him.

WallaceinAnderland · 21/05/2025 17:18

India has also claimed to both trans and 'cis' (which means actual woman, as in born female) in his bio. I would say you can't make it up but...

India's outburst to JKR 'I will always be more of a woman than you.'
Waitwhat23 · 21/05/2025 17:18

And thinking about it, we should have been laughing at this nonsense from the beginning. Women saying sweetly and nicely 'er, hang on a minute' was met with screams of 'die in a grease fire, bigot bitch'.

The first 'sex is a spectrum, you're too stupid to have learned biology after Standard Grade' should have been met with laughter and 'don't be so fucking ridiculous'

The first 'trans women are the most oppressed, ever, ever, ever!!' should have been met by laughter and 'don't be so fucking ridiculous'.

The first male to say 'I'm more of a woman than you'll ever be'
should have been met by laughter and don't be so fucking ridiculous.

JKR's done that but with a touch more flair.

The whole thing sort of reminds me of the Boggart banishing charm from yes, Harry Potter.

'Riddikulus!'

WallaceinAnderland · 21/05/2025 17:10

India “let that penetrate” Willoughby is the one aggressively punching down. His viscous behaviour towards Amanda Barrie, an older, smaller female, was stand out male aggression.

In that same show, he also harrassed Ginuwine, trying to get him to kiss him. Ginuwine was so obviously uncomfortable but India kept on at him. Genuwine had to say no several times. India also told Courtney Act (drag artist) that India was dragphobic. India was the first one voted out of the house. In today's society, he would have been booted out by producers.

lechiffre55 · 21/05/2025 17:08

Memoryhole · 21/05/2025 16:57

i remember Willoughby on WH, years ago, when he opined that women should wear tights and shave their legs otherwise it was unhygienic. Jenny Murray informed him that women’s body hair had been a feminist issue for quite some time. He didn’t seem to take any notice.

The 'unhygenic' reminds me of the argument of certain cultures who practice FGM. One of the arguments was not cutting was unhygenic and women's reproductive systems would fill with puss unless they were cut. I seem to remeber one example was Kate Adie was directly told this to her face by a man.
Possibly in this program?
www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p04gzq5m

Aliflowers · 21/05/2025 17:08

Where here do you live? Because in the UK and much of the western democracies at least, trans people have held a disproportionate amount of political power for some years

Based on her name I’m going to guess @1MnaAthCliath (1DublinWoman) is Irish. In ireland Trans culture doesn’t seem as prevalent as it does in the UK but the trans community have even greater protections here than in the UK as our equivalent law to the equality act is based on gender and not sex. So yes they have plenty of power and protection here

RedToothBrush · 21/05/2025 17:07

IW is a useful idiot.

And therein lies the point.

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Christinapple · 21/05/2025 17:05

Those two at it again huh.

EasternStandard · 21/05/2025 17:02

Waitwhat23 · 21/05/2025 16:26

For all the 'she should just ignore him/be nicer/oh, she's a nasty witch' posters, women in the beginning of all this were kind and sought to make ourselves accommodating, undoubtedly following early female socialisation.

Where did it get us? Fucking nowhere. With women imprisoned with violent male sex offenders as just one example.

It doesn't matter how prettily the no was couched. It doesn't matter if we were sweet, and kind and simpered. It's the no that men like India hate and despise so much.

As for 'punching down' - stand up for fucks sake. You're giving Drew Barrymore vibes.

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True. I think he’s very small compared to her but being silent gets us nowhere.

I’ve only encountered his name on mn threads anyway and pretty much no idea what he does as a job.

It’s clear a no often lends to male violence in words or actions.

Azureshores · 21/05/2025 17:00

KnottyAuty · 21/05/2025 12:05

I will always be more of a woman than you.

Men compare their manliness sometimes don't they. Never heard of a woman doing the equivalent. I still haven't.

This is so true. I've literally never in my 45 years heard a woman say "I'm more of a woman than you". It's such a...well, manlike thing to say.

BiologicalRobot · 21/05/2025 17:00

@1MnaAthCliath Nobody sees India as a woman. Not even India in their more lucid moments. That's why they are so bitter and aggressive at women (the real kind).

Feel free to go on X and tell your little piggy that women still don't want him in their spaces, no matter how much he cries and stamps his feet.

Memoryhole · 21/05/2025 16:57

i remember Willoughby on WH, years ago, when he opined that women should wear tights and shave their legs otherwise it was unhygienic. Jenny Murray informed him that women’s body hair had been a feminist issue for quite some time. He didn’t seem to take any notice.