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Labour party plan to ensure women's posts are for women only.

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ArabellaScott · 19/05/2025 22:06

And activists are not happy.

'The proposals to restrict trans members’ engagement in internal democratic procedures - including by blocking trans women from standing in All Women’s Shortlists, excluding them from National Women’s Conferences, and preventing them standing as Women’s Officers'

www.prideinlabour.org.uk/post/joint-statement-in-response-to-leaked-nec-paper

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Shortshriftandlethal · 20/05/2025 09:14

orangegato · 20/05/2025 05:48

The left eating itself again. Wonder what the unions will make of this? Either way, I’m loving it.

The unions will be all over it...they are completely captured.

WorriedMutha · 20/05/2025 08:56

When Starmer had to take on the Corbynites and apologise for antisemitism, the left had a tantrum but Labour didn't start cancelling the conference. Labour relished the fight to show they'd changed.
When the TRA have a tantrum, Starmer's hiding behind the sofa hoping it will magic itself away.
Zero justification for cancelling. You stand up to bullies. I hope the media go for him on this. No more fence sitting. They've indulged this wing at our expense so no pity from me.

Greyskybluesky · 20/05/2025 08:53

Let the noisy activists make noise.

Yes! And then stand up to them firmly in public. This needs dealing with. Women are important.

orangegato · 20/05/2025 08:39

@ArabellaScott it’s funny how cowards are already on about ditching it or postponing it. Grow a pair!!!! Someone in the Labour Party needs to speak up.

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ArabellaScott · 20/05/2025 08:36

orangegato · 20/05/2025 07:50

Fucked if they go with women only, fucked if they let men in, and fucked if they cancel it. They really have backed themselves into a tight corner here, delicious.

Yep. I'd suggest their only credible option is to hold the conference and have it women only.

Let the noisy activists make noise.

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orangegato · 20/05/2025 07:50

Fucked if they go with women only, fucked if they let men in, and fucked if they cancel it. They really have backed themselves into a tight corner here, delicious.

napody · 20/05/2025 07:41

TeaCalm74 · 20/05/2025 07:38

It's taken for people to be deemed right wing...far right... reform to win local elections...for labour to get to this point. What the fuck was the last 7 years!? A glitch in the matrix?? The be kind movement has alot to answer for

It's taken the incredible For Women Scotland and the courts. I don't think Reform have much to do with it- shall we not give them the credit? Labour have been looking for a credible ferret to reverse on and now they have one.

Chrysanthemum5 · 20/05/2025 07:40

Easier to stop women being heard than to stand up to men

TeaCalm74 · 20/05/2025 07:38

It's taken for people to be deemed right wing...far right... reform to win local elections...for labour to get to this point. What the fuck was the last 7 years!? A glitch in the matrix?? The be kind movement has alot to answer for

napody · 20/05/2025 07:37

Floisme · 20/05/2025 07:23

They should hold the conference, announce it’s what it says on the tin - women only - and pay for additional security. Also Starmer should stand outside the door wearing one of David Tennant’s ‘You will have to go through me first’ T shirts.

Go on, do it Labour, and I might vote for you again.

Well, according to the report they won't need additional security if they make it women only. If they make it self ID though they'll be besieged by angry feminists trying to drag the transwomen out. Or something.

EasternStandard · 20/05/2025 07:32

sashagabadon · 20/05/2025 06:38

If they had done this 7 years ago when it all kicked off , probably none of the subsequent chain of events with women fighting back would have happened.
wasn’t this the exact thing why mumsnet got talking?
Brexit talking points back in the news today and All Women short lists. 2018 all over again 😁

A pre Labour GRA moment would be even better.

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ArabellaScott · 20/05/2025 07:29

It seems a fork in the road moment.

Either Labour respect the law and back women, or they don't.

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PonyPatter44 · 20/05/2025 07:28

I think i might rejoin the party on the back of this, and start putting pressure on again.

Floisme · 20/05/2025 07:23

They should hold the conference, announce it’s what it says on the tin - women only - and pay for additional security. Also Starmer should stand outside the door wearing one of David Tennant’s ‘You will have to go through me first’ T shirts.

Go on, do it Labour, and I might vote for you again.

napody · 20/05/2025 06:48

This bit annoyed me:
Risk of “protests, direct action and heightened security risks” if the women’s conference goes ahead as initially planned in Liverpool this September on the basis of attendee self-identification.

I think the security risks come if you actually dare make it women-only. Which is why we haven't had anything women-only for a decade.

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sashagabadon · 20/05/2025 06:38

If they had done this 7 years ago when it all kicked off , probably none of the subsequent chain of events with women fighting back would have happened.
wasn’t this the exact thing why mumsnet got talking?
Brexit talking points back in the news today and All Women short lists. 2018 all over again 😁

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ArabellaScott · 20/05/2025 06:32

EweSurname · 20/05/2025 06:29

Have they postponed the women’s conference or is this another way of just getting rid of it entirely, so they don’t have to exclude the men?

Meeting of the NEC today, I believe.

Either they have to have the women's conference be women only or they'll cancel it. Well, they may say 'delay/postpone'.

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EweSurname · 20/05/2025 06:29

Have they postponed the women’s conference or is this another way of just getting rid of it entirely, so they don’t have to exclude the men?

orangegato · 20/05/2025 05:48

The left eating itself again. Wonder what the unions will make of this? Either way, I’m loving it.

Bearsinmotion · 20/05/2025 05:31

That LabourList headline;

"Party to delay women’s conference and exclude trans people from women’s officer roles over Supreme court ruling"

It's an incorrect headline. It will not exclude trans people, that would be discrimination, it excludes trans women (biological men). But presumably, once again that's because trans men (biological women) don't count.

Bunty27 · 20/05/2025 04:20

weak , cowards , women haters.

www.telegraph.co.uk/gift/969a0cb3d9e54bdc

TooBigForMyBoots · 20/05/2025 01:58

Good stuff.

TinselAngel · 19/05/2025 23:25

Ah I remember the very first crowd funder and when Jennifer James came on here and called everyone “comrades” and it went down like a lead balloon