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Labour party plan to ensure women's posts are for women only.

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ArabellaScott · 19/05/2025 22:06

And activists are not happy.

'The proposals to restrict trans members’ engagement in internal democratic procedures - including by blocking trans women from standing in All Women’s Shortlists, excluding them from National Women’s Conferences, and preventing them standing as Women’s Officers'

www.prideinlabour.org.uk/post/joint-statement-in-response-to-leaked-nec-paper

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Scout2016 · 20/05/2025 12:54

nauticant · 20/05/2025 10:55

Madigan was fading from public awareness to some degree and disappeared around the time there were allegations of sexual assault.

Well that's a depressingly familiar twist. And here was me willing to have sympathy and thinking he might have been a casualty of affirmation and no grownups acting as such.

SionnachRuadh · 20/05/2025 12:45

Cancelling would reduce women's conference to... well, where lesbian dating events have been for the past 10 to 15 years. No blokes, no event.

Wasn't there a recent court case about that kind of thing?

Imnobody4 · 20/05/2025 12:26

Cancelling would send an appalling message. It's basically saying if transwomen aren't included then women's single sex meetings can't be allowed.
They could open the women's conference to all men interested in promoting women's rights.

tobee · 20/05/2025 12:20

Greyskybluesky · 20/05/2025 08:53

Let the noisy activists make noise.

Yes! And then stand up to them firmly in public. This needs dealing with. Women are important.

People still aren't really standing up to them enough. Everyone should be doing this routinely . It's not that hard.

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ArabellaScott · 20/05/2025 12:15

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/may/20/labour-to-cancel-its-womens-conference-after-supreme-court-gender-ruling

Guardian seems to think cancelling is a done deal.

'Labour is to cancel its national women’s conference and restrict all-women shortlists as it awaits full guidance from the equalities watchdog, sparking criticism from trans rights and gender critical campaigners.
The party’s governing body, the national executive committee (NEC) will meet on Tuesday to sign off plans to cancel the women’s conference, which was due to take place before the party’s annual conference in Liverpool in September.'

Labour to cancel its women’s conference after supreme court gender ruling

Trans rights and gender critical campaigners criticise decision after party told it risks legal challenge if conference goes ahead

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/may/20/labour-to-cancel-its-womens-conference-after-supreme-court-gender-ruling

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Shortshriftandlethal · 20/05/2025 12:02

Imnobody4 · 20/05/2025 10:56

On the subject of threats of demonstrations, perhaps they should cancel the main conference; after all last year
Around 15,000 people marched on the Labour conference in Liverpool on Saturday to rage at the party’s complicity in Israel’s genocide.

Last year there was no " World Transformed" event as there usually would have been, so all of the radicals were looking for a cause to champion. 'Trans' and Gaza/anti Israel has been where it is at.

Imnobody4 · 20/05/2025 10:56

On the subject of threats of demonstrations, perhaps they should cancel the main conference; after all last year
Around 15,000 people marched on the Labour conference in Liverpool on Saturday to rage at the party’s complicity in Israel’s genocide.

Labour blocks Palestine campaigners from using the word 'genocide' at its conference

Labour is under fire for blocking the Palestine Solidarity Campaign from using certain words at its conference

https://socialistworker.co.uk/palestine-2023/labour-blocks-psc-from-using-the-word-genocide-at-its-conference/

nauticant · 20/05/2025 10:55

Madigan was fading from public awareness to some degree and disappeared around the time there were allegations of sexual assault.

Christwosheds · 20/05/2025 10:52

Circumferences · 19/05/2025 22:25

Ugh

Mad Madigan takes me right back.

This person peaked me more than anyone.

I'm grateful to the labour party for their possibly empty words because we will have to see. They are not exactly reliable at the moment.

What happened to Madigan? I haven’t heard anything of him for ages.

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ArabellaScott · 20/05/2025 10:50

PriOn1 · 20/05/2025 10:37

Giving in to these threats is to give in to terrorism. They need to go ahead and weather whatever storm these men create. It may take time and it may not be pleasant, but if it does go ahead they do harm the women or their conference, it will demonstrate perfectly where the real problem lies.

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Yep.

We're all quite aware of how trans activists respond when they are told 'no'.

It may be enlightening for the Labour membership more broadly to see it first hand.

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SionnachRuadh · 20/05/2025 10:38

sweetsardineface · 20/05/2025 10:31

Then Unison will be sued. I’m sure their members will be delighted to see their subs being used to defend men in women’s change rooms and loos.

All we need is one enterprising Unison member to put in a complaint to the Certification Officer. The CO's job is literally to ensure that unions comply with the law, and they can be hit with pretty hefty fines if they don't.

DodoPatrol · 20/05/2025 10:38

Does anyone know what happened to Lily Madigan? Looks to have transitioned very young and publicly with a lot of fuss, legal action against school for not complying with affirmation...threw weight around in Labour party as young adult. Then seems to have disappeared.

There was a suggestion from a friend of some unpleasant behaviour, IIRC. Maybe felt best to keep out of the spotlight. Not a great loss to politics.

monktasmic · 20/05/2025 10:38

Conference looks like it’s going to be ‘fun’ or a bloodbath depending on your view.

PriOn1 · 20/05/2025 10:37

ArabellaScott · 20/05/2025 08:36

Yep. I'd suggest their only credible option is to hold the conference and have it women only.

Let the noisy activists make noise.

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Giving in to these threats is to give in to terrorism. They need to go ahead and weather whatever storm these men create. It may take time and it may not be pleasant, but if it does go ahead they do harm the women or their conference, it will demonstrate perfectly where the real problem lies.

sweetsardineface · 20/05/2025 10:36

YourAmplePlumPoster · 20/05/2025 10:30

The Telegraph is reporting the Labour Party is going to cancel its Women's Conference.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/gift/129ac884b943292a

That would be a mistake, so there’s a good chance they will.

SionnachRuadh · 20/05/2025 10:35

If Labour, or the unions, want to have reserved trans seats or reserved trans events they can knock themselves out. The SC hasn't said they can't do that.

But that just goes back to why TRAs won't accept third spaces, but require entry to the women's space.

sweetsardineface · 20/05/2025 10:31

Then Unison will be sued. I’m sure their members will be delighted to see their subs being used to defend men in women’s change rooms and loos.

YourAmplePlumPoster · 20/05/2025 10:30

The Telegraph is reporting the Labour Party is going to cancel its Women's Conference.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/gift/129ac884b943292a

Scout2016 · 20/05/2025 10:28

Does anyone know what happened to Lily Madigan? Looks to have transitioned very young and publicly with a lot of fuss, legal action against school for not complying with affirmation...threw weight around in Labour party as young adult. Then seems to have disappeared.

As for current Labour, too little too late. Given his legal background Starmer must have known full well what the law was before the SC outcome and chosen to pretend otherwise and ignore it. It was fairly clear even to lay people. Smarmy coward.

YourAmplePlumPoster · 20/05/2025 10:21

Unison is proposing to break the law.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/gift/b8c46a2b3843c8c6

sweetsardineface · 20/05/2025 09:52

If trade union leaders want to die on this hill, they had better brace themselves for even more members leaving and the rise of new unions that actually do what they’re supposed to do.

orangegato · 20/05/2025 09:26

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orangegato · 20/05/2025 09:25

Shortshriftandlethal · 20/05/2025 09:14

The unions will be all over it...they are completely captured.

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What do you think this might be for Labours funding? Sir Slimy either has to piss off the electorate or the unions and he’s gone with the unions this time, but they pay the bills. Interesting.

Shortshriftandlethal · 20/05/2025 09:15

PonyPatter44 · 20/05/2025 07:28

I think i might rejoin the party on the back of this, and start putting pressure on again.

I'd wait and see what happens in September first. You don't want to have them think membership will increase regardless of what they do.