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Even a 10 year old can understand it

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inkognithia · 19/05/2025 12:17

Thanks to Haribo, my daughter and I have had one of the important chats a little earlier than I'd expected.

Sucked in by the power of marketing, she wanted to buy sweets in the supermarket, but they were branded with TERF wizard school stuff, so I explained that we could buy sweets, but not those, and she obviously wanted to know why.

Thus we had a short chat in the supermarket about how there was a person who had created those characters who turned out to be a bully, and she would get money from anything sold that was to do with her work. Then in the car we had a longer chat about trans people in which I was very conscious that my way of explaining who they are might not be the best and I might be putting it badly, but it was better to have the talk now than not at all.

Her current stance is that she is not OK with bullies and has immediately accepted that we don't buy anything that gives them money, and she specifically says she is on the side of trans people because some of them are our friends. Which might not be the perfect motivation, but I'll take it.

Usefully, this also led to a shorter talk about how people should be allowed to love and marry who they like irrespective of gender, but mostly she was surprised that anyone would think otherwise.

Respect is so simple a 10 year old can grasp it.

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soupycustard · 19/05/2025 13:00

Well done on not giving in to pestering about sugar. Too many children eat far far too much of it.
There seems to be a misunderstanding about marriage. Anyone of any 'gender' can love and marry anyone of any 'gender' because 'gender' is an indefinable social construct.
Also anyone of either sex can marry anyone of either sex: individuals of both sexes can marry someone of their own sex or of the opposite sex. That has been the law since 2010.
What individuals of the male sex can't do is use the legal rights given to the female sex under the Equality Act. Because obviously females need those 'extra' rights in order to take an equal place in society (in the same way as individuals without a disability cannot use the 'extra' rights given to people with a disability).
Otherwise of course you end up with males taking females' spaces, prizes, places on female shortlists etc. And males already have enough rights of their own, and further, if they are trans, can use their own 'extra' rights under the Equality Act.
So well done on one good bit of parenting (it's really hard sometimes to say no!) But maybe DD needs to know that her rights are as important as male rights and have to be protected.

murasaki · 19/05/2025 12:59

I hope she's not held back in life by her and your lack of critical thinking.

At least she has an excuse, being 10.

Lemonz · 19/05/2025 12:59

You should have had the conversation on the bus so that everyone could clap. Shame.

WithSilverBells · 19/05/2025 12:56

inkognithia · 19/05/2025 12:17

Thanks to Haribo, my daughter and I have had one of the important chats a little earlier than I'd expected.

Sucked in by the power of marketing, she wanted to buy sweets in the supermarket, but they were branded with TERF wizard school stuff, so I explained that we could buy sweets, but not those, and she obviously wanted to know why.

Thus we had a short chat in the supermarket about how there was a person who had created those characters who turned out to be a bully, and she would get money from anything sold that was to do with her work. Then in the car we had a longer chat about trans people in which I was very conscious that my way of explaining who they are might not be the best and I might be putting it badly, but it was better to have the talk now than not at all.

Her current stance is that she is not OK with bullies and has immediately accepted that we don't buy anything that gives them money, and she specifically says she is on the side of trans people because some of them are our friends. Which might not be the perfect motivation, but I'll take it.

Usefully, this also led to a shorter talk about how people should be allowed to love and marry who they like irrespective of gender, but mostly she was surprised that anyone would think otherwise.

Respect is so simple a 10 year old can grasp it.

It's over, mate. Let it go.

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 19/05/2025 12:51

inkognithia · 19/05/2025 12:17

Thanks to Haribo, my daughter and I have had one of the important chats a little earlier than I'd expected.

Sucked in by the power of marketing, she wanted to buy sweets in the supermarket, but they were branded with TERF wizard school stuff, so I explained that we could buy sweets, but not those, and she obviously wanted to know why.

Thus we had a short chat in the supermarket about how there was a person who had created those characters who turned out to be a bully, and she would get money from anything sold that was to do with her work. Then in the car we had a longer chat about trans people in which I was very conscious that my way of explaining who they are might not be the best and I might be putting it badly, but it was better to have the talk now than not at all.

Her current stance is that she is not OK with bullies and has immediately accepted that we don't buy anything that gives them money, and she specifically says she is on the side of trans people because some of them are our friends. Which might not be the perfect motivation, but I'll take it.

Usefully, this also led to a shorter talk about how people should be allowed to love and marry who they like irrespective of gender, but mostly she was surprised that anyone would think otherwise.

Respect is so simple a 10 year old can grasp it.

And then did everyone stand up and clap? An imaginary talk with an imaginary daughter, you should write a book.

frenchnoodle · 19/05/2025 12:23

On a technical note JK will have already been paid for the licencing. Buying or not buying disgusting jelly sweets won't effect that.

You've made a good choice though less sugar for your child.

Snorlaxo · 19/05/2025 12:22

You conned your daughter- well done 👏

TangenitalContrivences · 19/05/2025 12:21

Don't play chess with pigeons.

lnks · 19/05/2025 12:21

Oh I see. She’s one of those.

SilenceInside · 19/05/2025 12:21

I’d be disappointed that my 10 year old hadn’t asked what the “bully” had actually done and why it was bullying.

Needspaceforlego · 19/05/2025 12:21

What are you talking about?
Nobody gives a shit who marries who or want goes on inside anyone else's bedrooms or private spaces.

But people do care about public single sex spaces being single sex.

Does your 10yo understand they have a right to privacy from the opposite sex?

frenchnoodle · 19/05/2025 12:20

inkognithia · 19/05/2025 12:17

Thanks to Haribo, my daughter and I have had one of the important chats a little earlier than I'd expected.

Sucked in by the power of marketing, she wanted to buy sweets in the supermarket, but they were branded with TERF wizard school stuff, so I explained that we could buy sweets, but not those, and she obviously wanted to know why.

Thus we had a short chat in the supermarket about how there was a person who had created those characters who turned out to be a bully, and she would get money from anything sold that was to do with her work. Then in the car we had a longer chat about trans people in which I was very conscious that my way of explaining who they are might not be the best and I might be putting it badly, but it was better to have the talk now than not at all.

Her current stance is that she is not OK with bullies and has immediately accepted that we don't buy anything that gives them money, and she specifically says she is on the side of trans people because some of them are our friends. Which might not be the perfect motivation, but I'll take it.

Usefully, this also led to a shorter talk about how people should be allowed to love and marry who they like irrespective of gender, but mostly she was surprised that anyone would think otherwise.

Respect is so simple a 10 year old can grasp it.

Proof that children can be easily influenced isn't it.

nauticant · 19/05/2025 12:20

Because it's easier to mislead with twisted words.

SilenceInside · 19/05/2025 12:20

She means Harry Potter and JK Rowling. Why she hasn’t been able to write that down is a mystery.

InConniptions · 19/05/2025 12:19

inkognithia · 19/05/2025 12:17

Thanks to Haribo, my daughter and I have had one of the important chats a little earlier than I'd expected.

Sucked in by the power of marketing, she wanted to buy sweets in the supermarket, but they were branded with TERF wizard school stuff, so I explained that we could buy sweets, but not those, and she obviously wanted to know why.

Thus we had a short chat in the supermarket about how there was a person who had created those characters who turned out to be a bully, and she would get money from anything sold that was to do with her work. Then in the car we had a longer chat about trans people in which I was very conscious that my way of explaining who they are might not be the best and I might be putting it badly, but it was better to have the talk now than not at all.

Her current stance is that she is not OK with bullies and has immediately accepted that we don't buy anything that gives them money, and she specifically says she is on the side of trans people because some of them are our friends. Which might not be the perfect motivation, but I'll take it.

Usefully, this also led to a shorter talk about how people should be allowed to love and marry who they like irrespective of gender, but mostly she was surprised that anyone would think otherwise.

Respect is so simple a 10 year old can grasp it.

Children are so easily influenced, aren't they?

lnks · 19/05/2025 12:18

What is ‘terf wizard stuff’?