Even a 10 year old can understand it

Ah, you presume correctly. I hadn't realised I was quite so transparent <ostentatiously rustles beeswax wrap, covered in pencilled triangles 😄>

I took a stroll to my local corner shop this afternoon, and what did I spy? Couldn't resist a small contribution to the coffers of the Terven Queen.

I've had them and can confirm they are delicious

I also gave some to my Terf-In-Training devil spawns, so they didn't last long 😃

I’m presuming packet means home made beeswax wrap. Superb for geometry lessons on the go. Brava!

Was it an ecumenical matter?

Ironically, many of us nasty terfs are more on the side of trans-identifying people than the TRAs are. We believe that medical care for trans-IDing people should be of the same high standard and as stringently-tested as medical care for people in general. We believe that trans-IDing should be safeguarded with the same honesty and openness that help safeguard other vulnerable people.

And that is what our plopper considers bullying.

"but mostly she was surprised that anyone would think otherwise."

Yes, your explanation sounds a bit confusing. Of course she thinks bullying is bad.

I'm not sure what being 'on the side of trans people' means, but you are right that her reasoning seems a little off. Presumably she understands that she can be friends with people and not agree wth them.

I would be a little wary of her understanding of 'respect'. Your daughter doesn't have to respect anyone. She does have to obey the law and tolerate beliefs that she might not agree with.

I recommend Victoria Smith if you want to understand the issues more.

https://thecritic.co.uk/author/victoria-smith/

Her latest book 'Unkind' sounds relevant too:

www.amazon.co.uk/kind-How-Kind-Entrenches-Sexism/dp/0349127131

An alternative question.

What if I told you something which is clearly a lie like 'I am 8 years old' and asked you to agree with me that I am indeed 8 years old. What if when when you say 'but you aren't 8 years old I shout at you and threaten to beat you up for being ageist would that be OK?

Would she say yes then?

Well if it isn't, it should be.

Then maybe the OP would think twice about trying to deliver an important life lesson in a sugar laden, gelatined, E numbered environment.

Rookie error, of course. She would do well to read old threads, on that basis alone, I suggest she starts with cutted up pear.

Because an uninformed toddler stridently demanding what they want and then having a tantrum when they don't get it, is something we've all encountered.

God no, it was home-made

I have stirrings of a memory...is the fruit leather a very old thread reference?

Hilarious!!!

My child is on the broccoli diet. No evil meat or sugar laiden fruit.

Now, if only I could get him to actually eat it, my halo would be the shiniest of all.

You gave your child store bought fruit leather? Made from imported fruit?

If you have to ruin your child’s teeth and set them up for diabetes you should be making your own fruit leather <shudder> from locally sourced organic in season fruit?!

Then in the car we had a longer chat about trans people in which I was very conscious that my way of explaining who they are might not be the best and I might be putting it badly

i'm not surprised, these little life lessons can be rather daunting.

Especially for non Mumsnetters.

Funnily enough, I had the exact same conversation with my daughter, only she's three and it was in French and Mandarin alternately. And then she used the empty packet to prove Pythagoras theorem.

Athough obviously they weren't Haribo <shudders>, it was organic mango fruit leather.

Do stick around for more tips. You'll soon get the hang of it. 'Putting things badly' will be a distant memory

But you weren’t showing respect to the millions of people who agree with JKR, are thankful that she has the courage and visibility to speak on their behalf, and think that the bullies are the ones who have spent years persecuting people with opinions different from their own, and abusing anyone who disagrees with them or even just wants an open discussion of such an important issue.

How sad for your daughter that you are brainwashing her instead of having a balanced discussion. Hopefully as she grows older she will think for herself and perhaps see who the real bullies are.

'TERF Wizard School' didn't do a good job for Daniel Radcliffe and co - shame they weren't expelled.

I know it's a cliche but I actually did just spit my coffee out laughing!

Sweet little Harry - Beaux and (as per a pp) her naughty little sister Jelateen.

Clearly. All boycotting and vitriol to be directed at anything associated with an author who has opinions they don’t like. Nothing for companies whose practices directly contributed to increased infant mortality rates.

I’m not in my dotage, the original Nestle baby scandal was in late 70s which is when I was born. So yoof is not an excuse.

There wouldn’t be one cos the OP doesn’t give a shit about the Nestle baby milk scandal.

@inkognithia
Jokes about sweeties aside.

Have you explained who's bullying who?

That's a male regardless of their clothing or how they present themselves asking her to get changed in front of them is infact bullying her?

We have all spent many years trying to protect children and carefully and gently explaining to out children that their PANTS area is private they shouldn't be allowing people to look at that area.
Always remember your body belongs to you nobody should make you do things that embrass you
No means no
Talk about secrets and things that make you uncomfortable.
Speak up tell a trusted adult if your uncomfortable

Op could your DD trust you to protect her and her innocent 10 yo body from a pervert in a dress trying to access it?
Who could she trust to protect her ?

Yes i know your talking pish nobody would want to throw their 10yos privacy away like that but just incase anyone else has doubts in their mind.

3 cheers to JKR

Harry-Beaux is inspired!

Harry-Beaux is a lovely name, I think it needs to become the new Balonz

Sadly not. DH suggested that OP names Haribo's sibling Gelatine.

The OP was a bit long. Did she explain why she called her daughter Haribo?

I used to give my kids pom bears, take one and make it scream as I ate it. Kids are brilliant. They're so gullible.