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Police could search women's homes and phones after pregnancy loss

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IwantToRetire · 19/05/2025 01:05

Police have been issued guidance on how to search women’s homes for abortion drugs and check their phones for menstrual cycle tracking apps after unexpected pregnancy loss.

New guidance from the National Police Chiefs’ Council (NPCC) on “child death investigation” advises officers to search for “drugs that can terminate pregnancy” in cases involving stillbirths. The NPCC, which sets strategic direction for policing across the country UK, also suggests a woman’s digital devices could be seized to help investigators “establish a woman’s knowledge and intention in relation to the pregnancy”. That could include checking a woman’s internet searches, messages to friends and famil y, and health apps, “such as menstrual cycle and fertility trackers”, it states.

Details are also provided for how police could bypass legal requirements for a court order to obtain medical records about a woman’s abortion from NHS providers.

Abortion law in the UK is based on the Offences Against the Person Act from 1861. In recent years, an increasing number of women have been investigated and prosecuted under this law. The Abortion Act of 1967 allows women to end their pregnancies under medical supervision up to 24 weeks, or beyond in certain circumstances, such as if the life of the mother is at risk or if the foetus has a serious abnormality.

The guidance replace s a 2014 document that did not mention investigating stillbirths, but had one mention of investigating women who may have had an illegal abortion. The new guidance, published in January and developed by a sub-group of the NPCC’s Homicide Working Group alongside the College of Policing, National Crime Agency and Metropolitan Police, covers the scenario over several pages.

The lead authors were Ch Sup t Liz Hughes of Avon and Somerset police force; Det Sup t Jon Holmes of Lancashire; DCS David Ashton of Durham; Ch Sup t Fiona Bitters of Hampshire and Isle of Wight; Sonya Baylis, of the National Crime Agency; and D S Robert Simmons of Suffolk.

Article continues at https://observer.co.uk/news/national/article/police-could-search-homes-and-seize-phones-after-sudden-pregnancy-loss

Police could search homes and phones after pregnancy loss | The Observer

Police could search homes and phones after pregnancy loss | The Observer

New national guidance suggests officers look for menstrual tracking apps or abortion drugs

https://observer.co.uk/news/national/article/police-could-search-homes-and-seize-phones-after-sudden-pregnancy-loss

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colourmystic · 19/05/2025 05:23

TheKhakiQuail · 19/05/2025 05:12

That sounds horrifying.

If anyone had told us ten years ago that a Western nation would soon be able to seize and search a woman's property after she experienced pregnancy loss, what could we have possibly replied?

TheKhakiQuail · 19/05/2025 05:12

That sounds horrifying.

colourmystic · 19/05/2025 04:14

Happyinarcon · 19/05/2025 04:08

I haven’t read the article but I’m willing to bet this policy was designed to catch men trying to induce abortions in their partners without their knowledge.

I think that's a very generous / optimistic interpretation, and from headline it's framing women as criminals

Happyinarcon · 19/05/2025 04:08

I haven’t read the article but I’m willing to bet this policy was designed to catch men trying to induce abortions in their partners without their knowledge.

colourmystic · 19/05/2025 02:49

Were there any women officers present when this was rolled out who've experienced miscarriage, and did they point out that this is fucking insane?

NumberTheory · 19/05/2025 02:07

I have said this before but it bears repeating:

Despite what many people think, we don’t have abortion rights in most of the UK and it's a big problem.

Women don’t get the final say over whether we can have an abortion or not. We are allowed an abortion if we satisfy doctors that we meet fairly restrictive grounds. Otherwise we commit a serious crime.

The grounds have been quite loosely interpreted for the last 30ish years, which has made it seem a less urgent fight than it ought to be, but it would be easy for them to be reined in without any changes to legislation. And these guidelines really highlight the need to stop being as lackadaisical about the state of the law here.

We need to decriminalize abortion for women properly. We don't have to liberalise the criteria under which doctors are allowed to perform abortions to do this (though I'd like to), we just need to take this draconian threat away from women.

Wonder if the NSPCC have given any consideration at all to the impact of investigating mothers who have had a pregnancy loss on the children who actually exist whom she is already looking after.