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A trans woman is on the sort list to represent Unison’s female disabled members on their executive committee

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ScrollingLeaves · 18/05/2025 21:30

It is only so far being reported in GB News, The Telegraph, and The Daily Mail.

Maybe the man in question will not be chosen in the end but Unison is evidently not a good union for women if they are pursuing this approach in spite of the recent ruling that Women in the Equality Act are a sex not an identity.

Waple has vowed to take her seat if elected, telling the Telegraph: 'The biggest threat to women’s rights is not trans people, but rather the one per cent of super-powerful rich, clinging to their wealth and denying real funding for housing, domestic violence services and women’s services.
'The undemocratic and unaccountable Supreme Court ruling plays to the false narrative and agenda that trans people are a threat to women and will only serve to create a climate of fear among trans people.

Unison said it was an internal electoral issue that is consistent with its long-standing rules,
(Daily Mail)

The fact that Unison/Waple thinks it is ok to take the place of an actual woman on this short list of disabled ‘women’, only goes to prove the narrative that men identifying as women are a problem for women.

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DuesToTheDirt · 19/05/2025 21:18

KnottyAuty · 19/05/2025 21:13

I can't believe I am saying this but - that would be a perfect outcome!
Let people see how ridiculous it is.

I'm guessing the men would be pleased with the outcome and the women, well, they obviously don't care what women think.

KnottyAuty · 19/05/2025 21:13

ScrollingLeaves · 19/05/2025 21:10

Do they could both end up being men.

I can't believe I am saying this but - that would be a perfect outcome!
Let people see how ridiculous it is.

ScrollingLeaves · 19/05/2025 21:10

AncientAtiny · 19/05/2025 17:46

I voted in this election - there was one female disabled members seat and one general disabled members seat.

Do they could both end up being men.

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KnottyAuty · 19/05/2025 21:07

pontefractals · 19/05/2025 16:00

Can you point to a union in the same sector that ISN'T captured? It's all a nightmare.

I'm not in a unionised sector so have never had the "benefit" of representation. I'm always curious about why unions are needed - but if you have always had one I suppose it is difficult to drop it? Like insurance - you mostly don't need it but there will be that one time you do...

LeftieRightsHoarder · 19/05/2025 21:03

The biggest threat to women’s rights is not trans people, but rather the one per cent of super-powerful rich, clinging to their wealth and denying real funding for housing, domestic violence services and women’s services.

I’m so glad to have this properly mansplained!

There I was thinking men invading women’s spaces and taking their jobs, sports prizes etc was a serious problem of its own. And that rich people failing to pay enough tax was a totally different and unrelated problem.

But now I understand that anything harmful men do to women is not a problem.

So glad to have that cleared up!

Pleasantsort · 19/05/2025 20:49

@Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g I'll try and sign up- my nose is bothering me ! 🤣
@Binman The absolute arrogance saying that to you. I so loathe them. I really wish more members would leave and hurt them where it hurts. Might wipe the smirk off their faces. 🤬

Binman · 19/05/2025 17:51

My local rep (male)has been very vocal objecting to the Supreme Court ruling and calling for challenge. I have left unison because of it, they weren’t bothered, their reply suggested that I may regret my decision if I need representation.

AncientAtiny · 19/05/2025 17:46

I voted in this election - there was one female disabled members seat and one general disabled members seat.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 19/05/2025 17:40

I don't think it would be wise to repeat it here as it's defamatory and unevidenced. It can be found by searching X for flatmate and Waple, however.

Pleasantsort · 19/05/2025 17:36

MrsFinkelstein · 19/05/2025 17:15

That's my issue.

As a practising Nurse I need to be in a union. But the RCN is just as bad.

I'm not a nurse but similar need union backing , so I joined GMB as seen a cracking GC rep Helen O'Connor I think her name is. They have the woke boys but she is fab so I figure if anything happens, she might help us.

Pleasantsort · 19/05/2025 17:33

VeraWangTea · 19/05/2025 17:26

For us on X what was said?

Yes please can I see it too, I'm not on social media?

Pleasantsort · 19/05/2025 17:32

Makes me so angry the years I paid into that union and the unpaid hours I gave them as a rep. F🤬 them. They all voted amongst themselves . All the same people got sent to conference etc and it still happens. No doubt I will not be the only one on this page. Makes me so angry. Aye I don't bother with them anymore- they despise women. Them and their handmaidens.

VeraWangTea · 19/05/2025 17:26

HappyNewTaxYear · 19/05/2025 16:47

Interesting comment from this person’s ex-flatmate on X

For us on X what was said?

VeraWangTea · 19/05/2025 17:21

This is why I voted with me feet.

I took my fees elsewhere.

I gave a reason for my departure and got a ‘we can’t all have the same views sorry you’re leaving’

MrsFinkelstein · 19/05/2025 17:15

pontefractals · 19/05/2025 16:00

Can you point to a union in the same sector that ISN'T captured? It's all a nightmare.

That's my issue.

As a practising Nurse I need to be in a union. But the RCN is just as bad.

HappyNewTaxYear · 19/05/2025 16:47

Interesting comment from this person’s ex-flatmate on X

AmaryllisNightAndDay · 19/05/2025 16:06

Unison had better have a word with their lawyers and review their rules. They cannot reserve a place on a list for women and allow a transwoman to take a place but not other men. Both sexes or one sex, no mix'n'match. Them's the rules.

It might need a man to bring a case forward under employment discrimination (which also applies to trade unions) but there might be some other bit of the Equality Act 2010 that applies directly to this situation, same as it applies to not counting transwomen towards women's places on public boards in Scotland. Which was exactly the case that came to the Supreme Court and the Scottish government were told "no you can't do that".

pontefractals · 19/05/2025 16:00

KnottyAuty · 18/05/2025 22:18

Wow. So they are now open for sex discrimination cases. Presumably from any woman who missed out on a place on the ballot. Or if he wins, any of the other women on the shortlist. Who are these women? And are any GC?

ETA At this point any GC women need to leave unison and go elsewhere.

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Can you point to a union in the same sector that ISN'T captured? It's all a nightmare.

MrsFinkelstein · 19/05/2025 15:51

ScrollingLeaves · 19/05/2025 08:50

That’s interesting that you actually voted @MrsFinkelstein. Do you happen to know the answer to @Cerialkiller’s questions?

I can't remember the exact wording but it was a female seat.

Cerialkiller · 19/05/2025 09:09

ScrollingLeaves · 19/05/2025 08:50

That’s interesting that you actually voted @MrsFinkelstein. Do you happen to know the answer to @Cerialkiller’s questions?

I've done some googling and it looks like it was indeed a woman's seat so as PP have said, illegal. Idiots. I hope he gets in and the other candidates sue.

More likely its just a play from unison to still be seen to be toeing the TRA line but they will hire a woman to comply with the law and deprive us of the satisfaction of them peaking a chunk of their members.

Do we know if their membership has declined noticably in recent years or at key points in this battle? Would be interesting to know.

ScrollingLeaves · 19/05/2025 08:50

MrsFinkelstein · 19/05/2025 07:50

I voted and I certainly didn't vote for him. I'm hoping the majority of members did the same.

That’s interesting that you actually voted @MrsFinkelstein. Do you happen to know the answer to @Cerialkiller’s questions?

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MrsFinkelstein · 19/05/2025 07:50

I voted and I certainly didn't vote for him. I'm hoping the majority of members did the same.

Cerialkiller · 19/05/2025 07:48

Is it illegal? Was the position specified as for women? (In that case then obvs yes) But it is actually illegal (other then just fucking stupid) for a man to represent women in this way?

Can it only be taken by a disabled woman? Can it just be a woman or could it be a disabled man? Genuine question.

TheOtherRaven · 19/05/2025 07:40

Already declaring his mission to re educate women, silence their unwanted voices, and largely use his role to direct womanhood into the narrow channel most convenient to him. As always.

It's illegal. End of. But it's going to end like the Green party - emptied of all diversity and balance until it's just a lingering small group of the extremists.

Seriestwo · 19/05/2025 00:24

This man has a lot of challenges. Is he robust enough for a role like this?

Aside from being the wrong sex, I mean