Kellie Jay Keen

What about world wars one and two? No religion involved, same god being invoked by most combatants. Surely most wars in history have been about grabbing or defending land?

Hurray! Transactivist reasoning at its finest. I hear her hairdresser’s aunt’s neighbour’s poodle once sniffed the bum of a dog belonging to Tommy Robinson too.

No I have an post graduate degree in Politics. How about you?

religion itself is the reason most wars have started in the world

that seems a little oversimplified. Have you been researching your homework on Wikipedia again?

Weird angry response. Who is it you’d like me to list?

Most religion is patriarchal and religion itself is the reason most wars have stared in the world - so to be honest I’d include pretty much all of them.

I can’t think of anyone, even DH, who agrees with me on everything. I can’t stand this collective group think mentality.

Every time I see posts making the childish and ludicrous claim that no one who has disagreeable views can declare they support a particular campaign or campaigner otherwise that campaign/er is tainted, I find it hard to believe they operate in the real world. And the current world.

How do they think people get things achieved with governments of the day? That they would allow female people to suffer harm rather than work with people who may have repugnant views on other topics except the campaign sounds like zealotry. And the very opposite to feminist.

However, what I really think it is that they simply lack any ability to understand human nature. And lack the depth of knowledge to have any confidence in their own judgement.

The fact is that many of the accusations mentioned on this thread so far have been debunked in a court of law as having no foundation. A fact that seems to have passed them by.

One accusation seemed totally fucking made up!

But that didn’t stop the accuser, they doubled down. To me, that is a sign of an abuser. Yet they believed they are righteous.

Beebop2025 · Yesterday 17:10

sorry its a long response.
Three things happened

I'm sorry that you were subjected to such a horror show. Hopefully, it can't happen to you, or anyone else, in future.

SidewaysOtter · Yesterday 16:46

So often “far right” appears to be anyone not left of Trotsky.

Oh come on! It's a bit of a stretch to call Trotsky far left!

I mean, he wasn't as bad as Stalin, or Pol Pot, FGS!

There is a significant group on the left who seem to have very litttle interest in concrete political action.

People like this would rather get nothing done rather than work with a group they disagree with on significant things to acomplish a shared goal.

It's like a bunch of leftist women refusing to support an effective campaign to set up a network to support victims of DV with housing supports because it was started by conservatives.

Go on then. Say which fundamentally religious people of other faiths are extremely "un-feminist".
And you can't cop out by naming religions like Amish, Mormons,JW etc.
Name all of them.

Did you miss the bit where she said …she’s atheist? But go on keep banging the drum that she’s a conservative Christian… except the only evidence given on this thread says the polar opposite.
I am not a fan of her but I’m so bloody sick of accusations and allegations without evidence. Moira deeming just won her defamation case because a senior politician thought he could accuse her of being nazi aligned because they physically occupied the same public space briefly, and what she herself has thought and said is irrelevant to the iudgement. When anyone these days says ‘she has faced criticism relating to allegations of…. ‘ I think what a load of hot air with zero facts. This thread of full of pretty rational hard boiled women, bring facts. Maybe you’re right- if so, show us. (You were completely wrong about Christian though)

I'm sure that your mum will give you a nice cup of tea and a biscuit if you ask her nicely and then you can calm down.

Here is a trip down memory lane from about 5.43.

Repent motherfucker!

To be fair, she very explicitly says that she is not a "feminist".

As someone who has doggedly clung to the purist definition of feminism as meaning simply, "an advocate for the equal rights of women," (acknowledging that reasonable people may differ re the details of what entails) I would probably beg to differ, but it sounds like it implies more than that to her.

For my part, I welcome anyone from anywhere along the political spectrum throwing their weight behind basic reality.

Honestly those with a vested interest in all this would use absolutely anything to try to discredit the arguments and there is no way to remain "pure" enough as a 'movement' to avoid that. You're better off being able to point out that the very reason people with such wildly differing political opinions, or backgrounds, agree on this is because it has nothing to do with politics at all but is simply a statement of the bleeding obvious.

i agree with this. There was a time on here with daily roll calls to see who had survived banning because so many were at the precipice on number of deleted posts.

100%

The minute I see the word 'aligned' I cease to read a word more, or to take that poster remotely seriously.

It's the laziest possible shortcut to thinking.

Deffo. Dark, and very dreary days

As she says so herself, KJK's milkshake certainly brings all the boys to the yard. 😁

And, as everyone knows, people don't get deleted for saying jack shit, they get deleted for being reported.

And boy, did she get reported. TRAs reported their fucking arses off. They reported all the live long day. They reported until fucking cows came home.

And all because of KJKs gobby, blunt, unapologetic, take no prisoners milkshake.

Which, incidentally, the Supreme Court completely agrees with.

it was when that man michael was heading up the modding team too. he really did seem to believe that women not being naice were letting themselves down, mumsnet down and their country down. it really did show in the modding style at that point. he simply couldn't get his head around women being forthright.

yep, heavens to murgatroyd it was hard to stay inside the rules, mostly because they varied widely depending on whether one of the 20 something interns was modding (the evil mums are being nasty again, I shall wield the ban hammer to bring social just back to the world), or one of the more experienced mods who'd let things ride a bit. and you didn't find out who was on duty until you lost your posting privileges for a week. it was quite the headfuck.

it was that Stella Creasey thread that did for Posie. It also got Maryz who was actual mumsnet royalty perma banned too i think.

They like their purity tests don’t they? It has to be THE most juvenile movement in history, so entirely devoid of humour and nuance.

As opposed to the 100% perfect in every advocate on the opposing side?🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 grow up, I do not expect to ever meet anyone who agrees with me on absolutely everything: that's not how life,or society, works

Some oldies but goodies posted on this thread. KJK vs DOCTOR Harrop never loses its entertainment value.

But here we are again playing pigeon chess...