TW who supports the SC ruling - AMA

I figured, but I did think the response was too good not to pass up

Yes that was badly worded lol

They can't decide something they don't even believe exists...

I'd rather not be imprisoned just because of my biology if its all the same to you.

This would be the biology textbook part of the education. So explain to me how, DSD is at all possible if sex is binary and not bimodal?

People should be imprisoned by virtue of their biology.

Square the circle for me. In what way are you giving us care and respect by incorrectly deciding for us what our gender is?

@busybusybusy2015 yes in the sense they facilitate a crime,

Many of these women were in fact victims of rape gangs, themselves and turned on other women to protect themselves.

Sex is binary, not a bimodal distribution.

Proof is: show me someone who isn't male or female. For the record and for example: XXY is male.

Right but as you are all so quick to point out, it doesn't matter how few trans people there are relative to the rest of society (far, far, far fewer if you would), all trans women must be removed on the grounds that one could be a predator. I am not at all clear on when this logic doesn't equally, if not more because we know that they've got a history of it, to women inmates that have committed SA?

Sorry, but the preceding posts about rape and the law are slightly off the mark. There are women in prison in the UK for rape. A woman who assists a man to rape is charged with rape. It's horrific to get one's head round, but here's an example. Only men can commit the act; anyone helping is also guilty of the offence. Like murder, I think? Any lawyers on here to clarify?https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2001/mar/17/sarahhall

I think you answered your own question there. 😂

OP is a man and so are you, and i do not do pronouns, just as i do not say may the lord be with you or recite the Lord’s Prayer, i do not believe in transgenderism. Or God.

Having said that you are a human being as is OP and i will gave care and respect for the way you and others choose to live your lives.

As long as you give me the same courtesy.

Im imploring you to pick up a biology textbook that goes past year 5, and maybe then a stats text book that can teach you what a bimodal distribution of data is.

No, because she'd be at risk from men. Biological men in a woman's prison aren't going to be at risk from women in the same way.

There are also far, far, far fewer women than men who commit sexual offences so it's not a major issue.

@ChirpyFinch

"Like they are affected by a system that says that there are two sexes only and you are legally treated as the one you were born as."

Just wanted to point that it's biology which says that there are two sexes only. "The system" only bothers about that binary because one of those sexes (men) systematically oppresses the other (women), and so women need special protections against men.

Right ok so semantics aside. Do you think a woman who sexually assaulted other women should be imprisoned in a men's prison by virtue of posing a threat to other inmates?

So I'd like to ask a very simple question. Is @VanishingVision a woman and what pronouns should we use for her?

Right, but I am struggling to understand how you think safety is achieved when trans women are sent to the wrong bathroom and trans men are told they can't go to any bathroom. I just find the argument that it is somehow safer completely baffling. As with your own experience, my trans identity didn't prevent my SA. It wasn't like the guy went "oh you've got a dick so you're a man. Sorry to have made that mistake buddy!". I also find it completely absurd to claim that this also makes cis women safer as if there's this invisible forcefield that prevents predatory men from just going wherever they want. I mean, there's literally an open thread on this forum of a man doing exactly that just because he was desperate.

@ChirpyFinch the act of rape requires a penis. There is no biological woman in this country who has been convicted of rape. And a vanishingly small amount of women who have been convicted of sexual offences.

Rape requires a penis. Women (the biological kind) can sexually assault but they can't rape.

@VanishingVision ha ha How about sex realist, I like Debbie Hayton, many here do not trust him, which is fair enough. If you e mail him he will respond to you.

I would love to see transexuals like you start to network and find your own tribe.

So we should free all the women rapists in prison for being wrongly imprisoned then?

I'll be honest, that sounds way more insane to me than we should send women to women's prisons and men to men's prisons regardless of if they are trans or cis.