Real life handmaids tale: Adriana Smith

Sorry did not see that part. So after all this they take babe out at 25 weeks!?

I assume then they started to see problems. This is on the cusp of viability no?

Honestly I am so angry about this now. They have used this child and mother as an experiment. I hope the baby survives and lives a healthy life. But what if they don’t?!

1lb 13oz. And very early. I assume something happened medically that meant they had to deliver the baby.

I could see an argument being made for this if the woman was very nearly to term or had stipulated before that she would want this to happen.

This case is absolutely horrific.

Does he not have rights as the father?

I am not particularly speaking up for him, but just saying it seems really strange.

Well lets just hope that all those who decided the pregnancy should continue will be as concerned about the child's future.

Presumably he’s got nothing to say-he had no rights in the case any more than Adriana’s family have.

The baby was born very prematurely. 7lb 7 is the average weight of a baby born at 40weeks. 1lb 13oz is a reasonable weight for a very prem baby born at 25/26 weeks.

Still find it strange that her boyfriend, presumably the father, has not featured in any of the reporting.

However 1lb 3oz! Surely they would have known that from scans. That is not a healthy weight and no doubt indicates serious issues?

I cant remember if it is on this thread, but certainly in articles there was real concern not just at the keeping Adriana alive, but in fact the inference was that her body was not longer functioning well, and suspect they went ahead with the delivery because they doubted the baby would grow any bigger. I think they planned at 32 weeks?

But all of it is totally grotesque.

It's a decent weight for that gestation.
Baby was born at 25/26 weeks rather than 40, hence the low weight.

Hopefully baby will be fine and will love a long happy life. It's a tragic situation, but at least mum can be properly laid to rest now.

1lb 3oz! Is that correct?

I thought babies on average were 7lb 7.

If that’s the case then this is beyond the pale. It was awful to begin with as the family should have been able to make a decision as to what the mother would have likely wished in the event the baby could be born healthy. However 1lb 3oz! Surely they would have known that from scans. That is not a healthy weight and no doubt indicates serious issues?

I just; there are no words. That poor woman. They could have gone together and atleast they would always be together.

The baby has been delivered by c section. 1lb 13oz. And I think around 25/26 weeks gestation.

The baby has been delivered by caeserean weighing 1lb 13oz.

Although not in this news report apparently Adriana's life support was turned off today.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1jwl9l9yneo

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You can choose :)

Theorem? Or theory? They're not the same thing.

Some theories don’t merit the time and effort of investigation. I didn’t have to investigate the conspiracy theories about Covid and the vaccine to know they weren’t true

'Classic conspiracy theory' sounds like a classic effort to pre-emptively discredit a theorem before making any effort to investigate its potential veracity.

Sounds like a classic conspiracy theory

And how is the gender issue related? Anti-abortion people are also violently antitrans, anti-gay etc.?

What happened in 1994?

Slower than one would think. Some incredibly astute women, been lucky to meet a few, recognised back in 1994 that this was all coming, and have been working all this time to halt it. Way back then, absolutely everyone ridiculed those women, me included. If only I'd listened.

Well that escalated quickly 😳

The cyncic in me says this is nothing to do with the baby. Its an opportunity for an experiment, abhorrent that the family has been made to fund it

And these 'baby at all costs ' approaches never centre child wellbeing anyway. What kind of a life could one have, learning eventually that your mother was effectively deceased while you grew?
Donahue and Levitt argued decades ago that the drop in u.s. crime rates in the 1990s could be traced to the legalisation of abortion in the 70s. This supports the point that forcing unwilling women to raise unwanted children doesn't work well for the kids either. It's a dreadful idea, forcing women who don't want to be mothers, to raise children they didn't plan for.

You can only think this is acceptable if you also think women are passive incubators.