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Sisters salon Brighton

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CoddledAsAMommet · 16/05/2025 19:21

Does anyone know what's happening at Sisters Salon in Brighton tomorrow? I've heard there's going to be a protest. Can't say much more.

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ArabellaScott · 18/05/2025 16:38

This is Sarah Savage talking to Pink News about living in a women's refuge:

'[Savage] made a best friend, who asked “the same curious questions that any cis person asks” about Sarah’s transition. But apart from that, none of the other women in the refuge ever questioned her gender identity. “They just accepted me straight away,” she says.'

https://www.thepinknews.com/2020/09/09/sarah-savage-trans-author-womens-refuge-domestic-abuse-transgender/

TicklishLemur · 18/05/2025 16:31

Have sisters salon released a statement about it? It would be good to hear their side of it all.

fromorbit · 18/05/2025 16:23

TheRozzers · 18/05/2025 15:49

Wow JK Rowling has Tweeted about it!

It is all over X. Hopefully it will get in the media now with JKR's tweet. Alarm bells will be ringing as people read so more peaking can happen

J.K. Rowling

An investigation into the persistent failure of UK police to protect women exercising their lawful right to hold a female-only event, alongside the failure to hold men like 'Sarah Savage' accountable for repeated acts of intimidation and public disorder, is long overdue.

Jon Pike
So, as an example, this is an exercise of old-fashioned male entitlement. This trans-identified male is justifying his disruption of a women-only event in Brighton. It's on a par with male opposition to women's suffrage, or, more light-heartedly, that Harry Enfield "Women! Know your place!" sketch. It's important to recognize this and for the pieces to fall into place - perhaps particularly -for men on the liberal-left.

This is sexism.
This is male chauvinism.
This is misogyny.
This is patriarchy - a system from which we (men) all benefit, and which we should oppose.

Most men on the left have an inkling of what male entitlement involves. Probably, for all of us, our understanding is patchy, but the basic contours should be apparent. It's past time that we join the dots and recognized its new and insidious form.

How much more explicit than "Shut up, women!" does it have to get?

https://x.com/jk_rowling

TangenitalContrivences · 18/05/2025 16:20

https://x.com/jk_rowling/status/1924105827985604991

Why the hell was he not charged? This is a crime? Who the hell do the police think they are?

https://x.com/jk_rowling/status/1924105827985604991

TicklishLemur · 18/05/2025 15:50

MassiveWordSalad · 18/05/2025 14:10

Apart from everything else, why on earth is Sarah wasting his time and energy like this? He could be doing something useful for the trans community, like campaigning for separate spaces for trans people, or having a meeting about the unique challenges of trans health care.

Indeed. Shutting up women talking about their health needs is more important to him than championing the needs of his own community.

TheRozzers · 18/05/2025 15:49

Wow JK Rowling has Tweeted about it!

TicklishLemur · 18/05/2025 15:48

TheRozzers · 18/05/2025 11:28

Imagine being furious about a group of women and trans men (yes there were trans men in attendance) meeting to discuss women’s health. Let’s silence that endometriosis chat.

I'm so glad sister salon continue to welcome their trans-identified sisters. So much for 'trans-exclusionary', no just aggressive males like Sarah Savage.

MassiveWordSalad · 18/05/2025 14:10

Apart from everything else, why on earth is Sarah wasting his time and energy like this? He could be doing something useful for the trans community, like campaigning for separate spaces for trans people, or having a meeting about the unique challenges of trans health care.

TangenitalContrivences · 18/05/2025 13:42

rebmacesrevda · 18/05/2025 13:31

Regrettably, I watched the instagram video. He says he was arrested, but the cops let him off because he said he was protesting 🙄

Two Tier Policing at its finest. Anyone feel like suing Sussex Police?

Edited to add: what an arsehole. Diverting emergency services is beyond selfish.

Edited

This smells funny - I don;t believe this can be entirely true.

BettyEagleton · 18/05/2025 13:42

This v dry comment on his video made me laugh…

cazzyjones 2h
The problem is that there is no clear list of what women are
allowed to talk about. I think if you made that list then you wouldn't have this upset and everyone could respect your boundaries
whether you are there or not.

SunnieShine · 18/05/2025 13:33

mrshoho · 18/05/2025 08:31

Such a despicable and selfish act.

Unbelievable.

rebmacesrevda · 18/05/2025 13:31

Regrettably, I watched the instagram video. He says he was arrested, but the cops let him off because he said he was protesting 🙄

Two Tier Policing at its finest. Anyone feel like suing Sussex Police?

Edited to add: what an arsehole. Diverting emergency services is beyond selfish.

mrshoho · 18/05/2025 13:31

TangenitalContrivences · 18/05/2025 13:23

There will be CCTV, there must have been an investigation at the time? Fire trucks turn up? Police? Why has this person not at least been banned for life from all council buildings let alone been arrested and charged?

He seems to be boasting that as soon as it was established that he was protesting he was immediately de-arrested. Please tell me this is not the case. I thought the right to protest did not include breaking any laws or being a public nuisance.

TangenitalContrivences · 18/05/2025 13:23

There will be CCTV, there must have been an investigation at the time? Fire trucks turn up? Police? Why has this person not at least been banned for life from all council buildings let alone been arrested and charged?

misscockerspaniel · 18/05/2025 13:21

Yes, according to this, he did commit an illegal act

2667ed1dd2b878649392175.pdf

Edited to say this is a poster by Leicestershire Fire and Rescue

https://leics-fire.gov.uk/uploads/2_667ed1dd2b878649392175.pdf?v=1719587293

TangenitalContrivences · 18/05/2025 13:14

I am certain this is a crime?

JohnnyMcGrathSaysFuckOff · 18/05/2025 12:09

All I can say is good for you @Juliejubilee and thanks for the work you do for women

ArabellaScott · 18/05/2025 11:42

TheRozzers · 18/05/2025 11:22

Here is the TRA boasting about it on Instagram. Stunning and brave 🙄 https://www.instagram.com/share/BAKf8JM5pd

Well, I'm sorry the meeting was disrupted and others affected, too.

Ultimately, though, this is a prime example of 'let them speak', only I'd call it 'let them act like dicks'.

eatfigs · 18/05/2025 11:31

According to Twitter posts about this, he was arrested and then released without charge because he told the police it was a protest.

TheRozzers · 18/05/2025 11:28

Imagine being furious about a group of women and trans men (yes there were trans men in attendance) meeting to discuss women’s health. Let’s silence that endometriosis chat.

TheRozzers · 18/05/2025 11:22

Here is the TRA boasting about it on Instagram. Stunning and brave 🙄 https://www.instagram.com/share/BAKf8JM5pd

mrshoho · 18/05/2025 11:21

Let's hope the full force of the law is enacted for this criminal offence. What an absolute attention seeking dick.

socialdilemmawhattodo · 18/05/2025 11:14

Juliejubilee · 18/05/2025 11:09

Yeah. We were literally collecting data to feed into NHS planning. Funny that we were exactly the sort of women they wanted to hear from 😂

That is excellent. I've been a tiny part of data gathering in Kent and Medway on women's health over the last couple of years. But the language was wrong and they haven't until now responded to me on that.

Juliejubilee · 18/05/2025 11:11

Only one man, fortunately