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Good Law Project suing the EHRC and Bridget Phillipson - letter before action

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OhBuggerandArse · 16/05/2025 15:30

Sorry if this has already been shared - here are the links to their letter and statement. Looking forward to the Mumsnet analysis :-)

https://goodlawproject.org/were-bringing-a-legal-challenge-to-the-ehrcs-interim-update

https://goodlawproject.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/05/Letter-to-the-Equality-and-Human-Rights-Commission-16-May-2025_Redacted.pdf

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LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 22/05/2025 07:58

DrudgeJedd · 22/05/2025 07:56

I can't imagine why he thought this was an acceptable thing to tweet to his 400k followers. Guilt? Fundraising? Narcissistic rage?

Guaranteed his next move will be another blinky video about "Why are the creepy GC people talking about my wife's breasts?"

He’s getting a huge amount of pushback on X, no one is buying it.

DrudgeJedd · 22/05/2025 07:56

I can't imagine why he thought this was an acceptable thing to tweet to his 400k followers. Guilt? Fundraising? Narcissistic rage?

Guaranteed his next move will be another blinky video about "Why are the creepy GC people talking about my wife's breasts?"

Good Law Project suing the EHRC and Bridget Phillipson - letter before action
BackToLurk · 22/05/2025 07:52

Maaate · 22/05/2025 07:33

She said this only a few weeks ago. Such an unfortunate coincidence...

She appears to have deactivated. The plot thickens.

BackToLurk · 22/05/2025 07:51

ArabellaScott · 22/05/2025 07:19

JFC that man said "benefits of a child bride'.

By my reckoning, she’s at most 5 years younger than him. He’s a weird fish.

TheOtherRaven · 22/05/2025 07:38

Men can't have women's rights, Claire. You're absolutely free to use mixed sex spaces with men if you want to personally be with them in a state of undress, your body and your consent.

Maaate · 22/05/2025 07:33

She said this only a few weeks ago. Such an unfortunate coincidence...

Good Law Project suing the EHRC and Bridget Phillipson - letter before action
Maaate · 22/05/2025 07:29

she is entitled to dignity and protection...

He genuinely won't see the multiple irony's in this, will he?

ArabellaScott · 22/05/2025 07:24

TopographicalTime · 21/05/2025 22:36

'Passing' being a goal is actually a major argument against giving girls with gender dysphoria puberty blockers then testosterone - they end up being shorter than if they'd gone through natural puberty (as their growth spurt has been suppressed).
Hard to see what trans identifying girls gain from puberty blockers other than a deep voice, which isn't terribly hard to fake.

Hmmmm istr puberty blockers increase height ... because puberty actually puts a brake on growth. May differ between sexes. I'll see if I can find the reference.

KnottyAuty · 22/05/2025 07:23

SionnachRuadh · 21/05/2025 22:29

I don't want to be funny but the tall lesbians I've known have usually been length without breadth if that makes sense...

And the transmen I've know might look masculine on insta but seem to average out about 5'2" irl...

Should I put in a complaint about the people who don't conform to stereotypes being too stereotypical?

I’d love to see a study on the height of trans men. My hypothesis is that they are average or below height for women - part of their reason for transitioning?

Yatuway · 22/05/2025 07:20

BackToLurk · 21/05/2025 20:05

Ill have Things That Didn’t Happen for £100 please

Another one of those over here. He's a lying liar who lies.

ArabellaScott · 22/05/2025 07:19

DrudgeJedd · 22/05/2025 00:10

Not only a wife but a "child bride" apparently.
As if anyone would mistake her for a man because she's had a mastectomy.

JFC that man said "benefits of a child bride'.

Brainworm · 22/05/2025 07:13

I have been missexed several times in my life. I am tall and broad and dress androgynously. Before my mastectomy I had large breasts, which I didn’t camouflage, yet I was still missexed. Since my mastectomy the rate of missexing hasn’t changed, indicating that breast size wasn’t a factor in people thinking I could be male.

I just don’t think breasts size, or lack of, is a characteristic that people commonly draw upon to visually evaluate a person’s sex. I think they are often visually evaluated by men as part of sexual gaze and where no pleasure is delivered, they move on rather than think ‘male’.

Anyone can put on a padded bra, or wear prosthetics. Women can also be naturally flat chested.

DrudgeJedd · 22/05/2025 00:10

Not only a wife but a "child bride" apparently.
As if anyone would mistake her for a man because she's had a mastectomy.

Good Law Project suing the EHRC and Bridget Phillipson - letter before action
DrDameKatyDeniseInExile · 21/05/2025 23:22

Sunshineonbluebells · 21/05/2025 19:37

Latest tweet from JM top tweet was from him as well, he's replying to himself but it got cut off in my image.

Edited

So many responses to that twit/twat/tweet spring to mind but, on balance, I’m going with:

“JoMo has a wife?”

dubaichocolate · 21/05/2025 23:18

I have heard several women mention they have been stopped, usually on the way into the toilets. I think all have short hair and wear androgynous/masculine clothing. But they’re not bothered in the slightest and they say as they turn around and actually speak to the person for 5 seconds, the other person realises immediately they’re female and apologises profusely. So I think it does happen occasionally, but not in this aggressive, policing way that is described.

Miranda Hart has spoken about being addressed as sir sometimes, but I think she is broad-shouldered as well as tall, with short hair.

mrshoho · 21/05/2025 23:08

moto748e · 21/05/2025 23:01

Very interesting thanks. Crikey he's sailing close!

mrshoho · 21/05/2025 22:56

What are the rules on barristers found telling lies on social media?

moto748e · 21/05/2025 22:50

MarieDeGournay · 21/05/2025 22:20

There haven't been so many stories recently of 6' tall butch lesbians having to be protected by gallant heterosexual allies to avoid being chased out of women's toilets by packs of aggressive straight women, as reported, in a voice quivering with concern, by Dawn Butler MP.

Maybe the national supply of 6' tall butch lesbians has run out, and immigrant 6' butch lesbians can't get visas.

I've been to two women's toilets in the past week while out shopping. I saw no 6' butch lesbians, it was very disappointing.

Then it occurred to me that maybe all the straight women there were eyeing me suspiciously and saying -
'nah, 5'6", 5'7" tops, and apart from the sharp haircut and sensible shoes - not screaming 'butch' to me'.

So maybe I was the disappointment, and they are now writing to their MPs demanding to know why their women's toilets have not been supplied with the standard-issue 6' butch lesbian that everybody else seems to have?

Arf! 😆But it's a consistent theme, isn't it? Any chance to muddy the waters, to make a straightforward statement appear complex, to search for some possible wedge issue...

Bannedontherun · 21/05/2025 22:39

It is a joke that keeps on giving, back to basics we know what sex people are.

I have been friends with and met a wide variety of females who are a bit “manly”

some are lesbians some are straight.

I also know girly girls who are either lesbian or straight.

And girly girls who do plumbing, or know how to change a tyre.

it is all bollocks.

TopographicalTime · 21/05/2025 22:36

'Passing' being a goal is actually a major argument against giving girls with gender dysphoria puberty blockers then testosterone - they end up being shorter than if they'd gone through natural puberty (as their growth spurt has been suppressed).
Hard to see what trans identifying girls gain from puberty blockers other than a deep voice, which isn't terribly hard to fake.

SionnachRuadh · 21/05/2025 22:29

I don't want to be funny but the tall lesbians I've known have usually been length without breadth if that makes sense...

And the transmen I've know might look masculine on insta but seem to average out about 5'2" irl...

Should I put in a complaint about the people who don't conform to stereotypes being too stereotypical?

MarieDeGournay · 21/05/2025 22:20

FlirtsWithRhinos · 21/05/2025 20:02

It's so weird how all the TRAs seem to know women who get challenged about their sex.

Was this always a problem or just something that started the day the SC said something they didn't want to hear?

And if it was always a problem, why are they only mentioning it now?

There haven't been so many stories recently of 6' tall butch lesbians having to be protected by gallant heterosexual allies to avoid being chased out of women's toilets by packs of aggressive straight women, as reported, in a voice quivering with concern, by Dawn Butler MP.

Maybe the national supply of 6' tall butch lesbians has run out, and immigrant 6' butch lesbians can't get visas.

I've been to two women's toilets in the past week while out shopping. I saw no 6' butch lesbians, it was very disappointing.

Then it occurred to me that maybe all the straight women there were eyeing me suspiciously and saying -
'nah, 5'6", 5'7" tops, and apart from the sharp haircut and sensible shoes - not screaming 'butch' to me'.

So maybe I was the disappointment, and they are now writing to their MPs demanding to know why their women's toilets have not been supplied with the standard-issue 6' butch lesbian that everybody else seems to have?

drspouse · 21/05/2025 21:41

DialSquare · 21/05/2025 18:21

I would love James Dreyfus to do a piss take of that video!

I'm there for that too!