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Today it's Amnesty Internation on Woman's Hour to discuss the Supreme Court judgment

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nauticant · 16/05/2025 10:21

With Anita Rani. I am not expecting much in the way of challenges.

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ItsCoolForCats · 16/05/2025 10:46

TeamKenwood · 16/05/2025 10:40

So according to him, rather than transwomen staying out of single-sex spaces, women should simply not have male partners or male family members. Thanks Amnesty

I know, I couldn't believe he came out with that. What a bloody strawman. It just goes to show that if someone is trying to justify the unjustifiable, they will resort to nonsense arguments.

Gettingbysomehow · 16/05/2025 10:43

nauticant · 16/05/2025 10:24

It sounds like the lives of trans people are now going to be very hard.

The main take away of the judgment is to protect trans people.

And ignore 50% of the worlds population who are actual women.

WinterTrees · 16/05/2025 10:43

TracyCruz · 16/05/2025 10:38

"I don't see how that's important'

THATS BECAUSE YOU'RE A MAN

And more than that, the specific type man who thinks so little of women that he wants to appropriate their language, remove their right to self-definition and trample their boundaries.

Many men do understand and respect women's need for single sex facilities and spaces. The ones who don't are amongst the dangerous ones.

Hermiaxx · 16/05/2025 10:42

Clearly not read the judgement! It’s 88 pages (and each one a joy to read!)

SabrinaThwaite · 16/05/2025 10:40

Annoying she’s not challenging more but maybe letting him run on and on lets him sound as inconsistent and incoherent as the whole matter is?

I think Anita let him show his true colours, and display his total disregard for the rights of women and girls.

TeamKenwood · 16/05/2025 10:40

So according to him, rather than transwomen staying out of single-sex spaces, women should simply not have male partners or male family members. Thanks Amnesty

TracyCruz · 16/05/2025 10:39

I've complained, again, to the BBC - I didn't get an email verification last time so I presume they just binned it. Here's hoping today's works, eh.

thenoisiesttermagant · 16/05/2025 10:39

ThatsNotMyTeen · 16/05/2025 10:37

No one is saying trans people should be discriminated against you doughnut just that they are not the opposite sex so shouldn’t be in their spaces

Women saying no to abusive men is 'discrimination' dontcha know in TRA world.

ArabellaScott · 16/05/2025 10:39

TracyCruz · 16/05/2025 10:38

"I don't see how that's important'

THATS BECAUSE YOU'RE A MAN

Hm. Good to hear Amnesty sent a bloke onto Women's Hour to tell women they actually have no rights.

TracyCruz · 16/05/2025 10:38

"I don't see how that's important'

THATS BECAUSE YOU'RE A MAN

thenoisiesttermagant · 16/05/2025 10:38

Ugh. Disappointment.

Worst that can happen to men with lady feelz - get a third private space

Worst that can happen to women like Karen - PTSD trauma response when faced with a smirking male in the changing room and being forced to relive CSA.

FUCKS SAKE. It's about women's safety.

It's bloody Men's hour apparently.

ThatsNotMyTeen · 16/05/2025 10:37

“The guidance isn’t statutory” no but the law is you eejit

WinterTrees · 16/05/2025 10:37

Amnesty have just put themselves in the bin alongside Stonewall. Utterly discredited. Nice work Sasha.

SabrinaThwaite · 16/05/2025 10:37

CarefulN0w · 16/05/2025 10:35

So DH has just phoned me up from the garage (I know) to tell me that radio 4 have some bloke on talking about my kind of stuff. Grin

At least he’s paying attention!

I don’t think my DH’s blood pressure would have coped with listening to that (he’s very TWAM).

ThatsNotMyTeen · 16/05/2025 10:37

No one is saying trans people should be discriminated against you doughnut just that they are not the opposite sex so shouldn’t be in their spaces

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nauticant · 16/05/2025 10:37

Actually, it wasn't utterly shit by Amnesty. It was utterly mendacious.

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Lalgarh · 16/05/2025 10:36

"we must remember the majority of cis women who are killed are by intimate partners who are men who identify as men" (on why changing rooms should be inclusive)...

MyBoysHaveDogsNames · 16/05/2025 10:36

So people should respect the law and not discriminate against trans people. But ignore the SC clarification of the law?

bloke sounds batshit. Annoying she’s not challenging more but maybe letting him run on and on lets him sound as inconsistent and incoherent as the whole matter is?

Anita sounds so sad and flat asking the questions!!!

thenoisiesttermagant · 16/05/2025 10:36

Talk about Rose standing in his boxers with genitals on display repeatedly asking Karen when she was going to get changed. COME ON ANITA!

SabrinaThwaite · 16/05/2025 10:36

And now we have it - he doesn’t think that men should be excluded from women’s single sex spaces.

He said it out loud.

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nauticant · 16/05/2025 10:35

Anita Rani is actually raising privacy of women.

Amnesty bloke is claiming he can't see the relevance, and is hiding behind "everyone should have privacy".

And it ends. That was utterly shit by Amnesty.

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CarefulN0w · 16/05/2025 10:35

So DH has just phoned me up from the garage (I know) to tell me that radio 4 have some bloke on talking about my kind of stuff. Grin

TheHereticalOne · 16/05/2025 10:35

nauticant · 16/05/2025 10:22

Straight away, it's about fearful trans people facing discrimination.

The judgment is apparently "about 30 pages".

This is going to be bad.

This explains everything! They've just missed the other 58 pages! It's just a silly comedic misunderstanding that can be neatly resolved in the style of a Restoration farce!

Phew, I was worried for a minute there.

WinterTrees · 16/05/2025 10:35

He is so at sea on the Darlington nurses. Floundering like a great big floundering non-swimming thing.

He reaches for the lifebelt of 'threat comes from men. Men who identify as men.' He's still going under.

Rani is being a bit of a surprise champion here. 'What about the privacy of women?'

Biscofffan · 16/05/2025 10:35

He's babbling and talking nonsense. Everyone should be free to go anywhere because VaWG is by men.