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MON THE NURSES!!!!!! Royal College of Nurses supports the Darlington Nurses!

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ArabellaScott · 15/05/2025 19:10

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/05/15/nhs-trust-breaking-law-trans-row-royal-college-nursing/

'The Royal College of Nursing (RCN) accused the County Durham and Darlington NHS Foundation Trust of breaching workplace health and safety law by not prohibiting a trans nurse from using female changing rooms.
The union intervened amid a legal battle between the trust and eight of its nurses, who are opposing its decision to allow Rose Henderson, who was born male, to use women-only facilities.
In a letter seen by The Telegraph, the RCN in March pointed to the Workplace (Health, Safety and Welfare) Regulations 1992, which require all changing rooms to be male or female-only except when they are “single lockable rooms”.
“The RCN expects the trust to comply with these statutory provisions and provide single-sex changing rooms without delay,” the letter reads.'

This is such great news!

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LeftieRightsHoarder · 15/05/2025 23:53

Wow! The RCN sounds like a genuine trade union in the OP.

Up till now it’s been as weak, dishonest and misogynist as all the other unions, arse-licking to the transactivists because it doesn’t give a damn about its female members.

As PP said, the RCN must be losing enough members to worry it.

Bannedontherun · 15/05/2025 23:12

My daughter is head of nurse training in an NHS service, and i have had to suffer her having been thoroughly indoctrinated by NHS inclusivity nonsense, i have had to listen to her shout at me for being a transphobe, for saying her son was such a boy,

her cognitive dissonance was palpable as she struggled to hold on to a truth that was always a lie.

as a mother i think it became harder for her.

we generally avoid the subject, my silence worked as stuff hit the main stream.

the last question she asked me was what about the transexuals, where does that leave them?

the use of that word so startled me i said nothing about it because it to me was a move forward.

I just said why is that issue a woman’s responsibility and personally i am out of flying fucks as a feminist from the original stable.

anyway the point i am trying to make is that the SC ruling is game over, and we as women know who the casualties are at a lesser or greater degree depending on your own situation.

It is over bar the shouting, and i sleep better at night knowing my grandchildren will be far safer.

nocoolnamesleft · 15/05/2025 23:01

kiwiane · 15/05/2025 22:53

Let’s hope that Unison and Unite change their stance too and start to speak up for their women members. I’m fed up with policy being taken over by the trans lobby through conference votes.
Many hospitals have not rolled back their trans agenda - it would not be possible to guarantee single sex care at my hospital. As HR only ask for gender on recruitment they no longer record the sex of their workforce, surely that isn’t lawful?

Really need the idiots at the BMA to wake up and smell the roses. The problem is that they've been strongly influenced by the sort of young extreme left wing members who find TRA activism to be a great way to hate women but still seem woke.

kiwiane · 15/05/2025 22:53

Let’s hope that Unison and Unite change their stance too and start to speak up for their women members. I’m fed up with policy being taken over by the trans lobby through conference votes.
Many hospitals have not rolled back their trans agenda - it would not be possible to guarantee single sex care at my hospital. As HR only ask for gender on recruitment they no longer record the sex of their workforce, surely that isn’t lawful?

Hoydenish · 15/05/2025 22:53

I am frankly astonished. In a good way.

endofthelinefinally · 15/05/2025 22:44

About time.
I always found the RCN useless but maybe there is hope.

Wuuman · 15/05/2025 22:42

Great news!

I hope it’s a courage calls to courage situation. There must have be so many nurses who are GC but afraid to speak out against the trans cult. Then slowly but surely the tipping point is reached and not everyone is so afraid :o)

Hopefully that rather than purely arse covering, though there’s some people doing that too no doubt.

NImumconfused · 15/05/2025 22:37

Given that bit of reverse ferreting, then I wonder is it worth hitting the RCN leadership with the data from Knotty's policy audit? If they support the Darlington nurses against their trust management, then surely they'd have to address the same admonishment to all the other NHS trusts that are doing exactly the same thing?

SternJoyousBee · 15/05/2025 22:36

GardeningEconomist · 15/05/2025 22:10

Its all about keeping membership numbers and funding. The realisation that the bulk of union members are women might actually be sinking in.

Darlington have paved the way for others to potentially set up their own union. This will weaken the RCN over time.

Women might not necessarily shout and wave placards about but they are likely to take their union subscriptions elsewhere to another organisations that welcomes them and focuses on their needs.

Sadly I think this is the most likely scenario. I have been saying since the judgement that this war is won on money rather than morals. Companies and public bodies will only change their policies when they have to start paying out ££££ due to litigation rather than because they think protecting women’s rights is the correct thing to do

CarefulN0w · 15/05/2025 22:31

Halle fucking luyah. And about bloody time.

I wonder if the RCN will dare to mention it in their Friday newsletter tomorrow. My money is on no chance. Any offers?

WeMeetInFairIthilien · 15/05/2025 22:25

Cycleorrun · 15/05/2025 22:23

How many nurses have left the RCN to join the Darlington nurses new union?

Ohhhhhhhh, I'd love to know the answer to that!

WearyAuldWumman · 15/05/2025 22:24

Cycleorrun · 15/05/2025 22:23

How many nurses have left the RCN to join the Darlington nurses new union?

I recall that Sandie Peggie joined. Possibly that's prompted others to do the same.

Cycleorrun · 15/05/2025 22:23

NotMyRealAccount · 15/05/2025 20:05

Seriously? I didn't expect that given the RCN's previous form. I'm delighted that they've come round to this point and mildly curious as to what the tipping point was.

How many nurses have left the RCN to join the Darlington nurses new union?

ArabellaScott · 15/05/2025 22:21

GardeningEconomist · 15/05/2025 22:10

Its all about keeping membership numbers and funding. The realisation that the bulk of union members are women might actually be sinking in.

Darlington have paved the way for others to potentially set up their own union. This will weaken the RCN over time.

Women might not necessarily shout and wave placards about but they are likely to take their union subscriptions elsewhere to another organisations that welcomes them and focuses on their needs.

It's a very good point.

There is all the sound and fury, but the silent majority of people just quietly leave without saying anything.

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DiaAssolellat · 15/05/2025 22:12

Great news especially the words without delay.

DiaAssolellat · 15/05/2025 22:11

ArabellaScott · 15/05/2025 19:16

Fucksake

GardeningEconomist · 15/05/2025 22:10

Its all about keeping membership numbers and funding. The realisation that the bulk of union members are women might actually be sinking in.

Darlington have paved the way for others to potentially set up their own union. This will weaken the RCN over time.

Women might not necessarily shout and wave placards about but they are likely to take their union subscriptions elsewhere to another organisations that welcomes them and focuses on their needs.

unwashedanddazed · 15/05/2025 22:09

About bloody time.

Christinapple · 15/05/2025 22:06

Fun fact- The RCN also supports complete decriminalisation of sex work. They voted an "overwhelming majority" in support.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2019/may/20/royal-college-of-nursing-votes-decriminalise-prostitution-sex-worker-health?

https://www.nswp.org/news/uk-royal-college-nursing-votes-support-the-decriminalisation-sex-work

RawBloomers · 15/05/2025 21:53

YourWiseBee · 15/05/2025 19:29

I saw something that implied they were not aware of workplace law but when they came across it, it was clear it had to be followed. Which raises all its own questions as it’s not new law.

i suspect covering their own arses. They realised they could be liable for discrimination challenges.

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I wonder if the case coming to trial and the growing publicity around it has made them worried that their members will abandon them for the Darlington Nurses’ union.

MrsElijahMikaelson1 · 15/05/2025 21:41

About fucking time

Seriestwo · 15/05/2025 21:39

I did not see that coming. All health unions are captured, I’m amazed RCN
have broken cover

Swashbuckled · 15/05/2025 21:16

This is a very pleasant shock! ☺️☺️

Igmum · 15/05/2025 20:45

Yes yes yes 🙌 (and about time too).

Now come on Unison, Unite, UCU, BMA ferrets ABOUT TURN!

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