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Man pushed ahead of woman to use female toilet

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BlossomIsSoPretty · 12/05/2025 20:31

This didn't directly affect me as I have use disabled toilets, but I was out earlier and there was one male, one female, and one disabled toilet. There were 3 men and 1 woman waiting. One of the men was about to go into the disabled toilet when he saw me. I have no choice but to use disabled (wheelchair user). The female toilet became vacant and the man walked towards the door. The woman waiting was quite young and looked surprised but didn't say anything. I'm far from young and used to speaking up for myself, so I pointed out that it was a toilet for females and unless I was mistaken he wasn't female. He said no but I'm desperate and went in anyway.

So not only do women have to put up with men pretending to be women, we now have a man who decided he was going to use the women's toilet anyway!

OP posts:
Delphin · 13/05/2025 12:49

@Nominative: "Women regularly use men's toilets when the queue for the ladies is too long. Why can't it work the other way?"

When I was at Munich Airport, a few planes arrived at the same time, and the queue outside the ladies toilets (6 or 8 cubicles) was about 15 metres/30 women. The Gents was almost empty and when one man came out I asked him, are there any more men inside the Gents? He said No, and I said Okay, we're going to occupy it for the next minutes. I remember he looked at the huge queue, and said Okay. I knocked and called out and went inside with a few other women.

That is how it is done. The guy in the original post did nothing of the sort, and that is why he is being grilled here.

SpaceOfAides · 13/05/2025 12:14

JamieCannister · 13/05/2025 11:25

I think this might be another example of the harms done by the trans agenda.

I think, that in an ideal world, we would all know that no man would enter, let alone queue jump the ladies unless 100% necessary, and on the very rare occasions it happened it could be forgiven (ideally after an explanation).

But this is not an ideal world, women are treated like second class citizens, and women have no reason to suppose that this man queue jumped for any other reason that he believes himself to be more important than the women who were queuing. Women are sick of men in their spaces, whereas, I believe, 15 years ago they were more tolerant of the odd GNC man in there. The fucks have run out as they say.

TLDR - 10 or 20 years back I would have been slightly sympathetic to the man... now, none at all.

But so what? I just don't get all this headspace and time dedicated to a single man who at one time - as far as we're aware - jumped the toilet queue.

Perhaps out of entitlement, perhaps out of desperation, but what difference does it make? It's not as if men everywhere are pushing ahead of women to go into the women's toilets. Why is the single, minorly-selfish action of one man one time, so important as to warrant a report on MN and a discussion?

JamieCannister · 13/05/2025 11:32

Actually, reading my post back, maybe it is not a harm done by the trans agenda. Maybe the truth is that by making women less tolerant of the odd man in women's spaces TQ+ ideology has done women a favour in a way.

JamieCannister · 13/05/2025 11:25

HRTQueen · 13/05/2025 11:15

Yes I agree

We all know women are conditioned to be more thoughtful than men. A women in this situation would have absolutely explained herself

Disappointed so many are making excuses for his behaviour

I think this might be another example of the harms done by the trans agenda.

I think, that in an ideal world, we would all know that no man would enter, let alone queue jump the ladies unless 100% necessary, and on the very rare occasions it happened it could be forgiven (ideally after an explanation).

But this is not an ideal world, women are treated like second class citizens, and women have no reason to suppose that this man queue jumped for any other reason that he believes himself to be more important than the women who were queuing. Women are sick of men in their spaces, whereas, I believe, 15 years ago they were more tolerant of the odd GNC man in there. The fucks have run out as they say.

TLDR - 10 or 20 years back I would have been slightly sympathetic to the man... now, none at all.

HearthLight · 13/05/2025 11:22

MmeChoufleur · 13/05/2025 11:13

It’s humour, it’s called hyperbole. 🙄

Oh I know. Utterly ridiculous and, as I said, very funny!

These crazy wimmins, eh?!

UrsulasHerbBag · 13/05/2025 11:16

why didn’t he push in front of the men’s queue?

HRTQueen · 13/05/2025 11:15

lnks · 12/05/2025 21:05

You’re not wrong at all OP. The whole trans thing appears to have given twatty men permission to treat women poorly

Yes I agree

We all know women are conditioned to be more thoughtful than men. A women in this situation would have absolutely explained herself

Disappointed so many are making excuses for his behaviour

MmeChoufleur · 13/05/2025 11:13

HearthLight · 13/05/2025 10:54

If you don't understand the issues by now I suspect it's intentional.

But honestly, your post was extremely funny.

Hysterical strawmen are often set up to attack women who register even mild annoyance about the infringement of their rights and the reinterpretation of, "this entitled man shoved past a woman into facilities specifically reserved for her and I'm annoyed about it," to, "women want men to have to hold their pee until they die of kidney failure," is a classic of the genre. 😁

It’s humour, it’s called hyperbole. 🙄

Vegemiteandhoneyontoast · 13/05/2025 11:10

There is a lot of conflating of different issues here. 'Do you want him to piss himself?', 'Maybe he has a medical condition' etc.

The crux of the matter is that a man pushed in front of a woman already waiting to use a toilet that he isn't entitled to use. It seems that if a woman had done this to another woman, we'd have a right to complain but, as it was man, everyone is making up irrelevant excuses for him with no thought to the woman. Who knows, maybe she was about to piss herself and maybe she has a medical condition.

RapidOnsetGenderCritic · 13/05/2025 11:09

smellyhouseelf · 12/05/2025 20:38

He was desperate. Would you prefer he pissed himself?

It's much more likely that he has a bowel problem. Men can literally hold on to wait for a pee!

ArabellaScott · 13/05/2025 11:09

Being told to 'calm down' and accusing women of hysteria is generally the most very basic MRA response to any women expressing anything other than delighted, humble obedience to male dominance or aggression.

It doesn't generally work very well on feminists.

HearthLight · 13/05/2025 10:54

MmeChoufleur · 13/05/2025 10:42

Calm down. I’m no handmaiden. I just can’t get worked up over where people of either sex have a pee, yet it’s taken over half of MN.

“I have discovered that my friend’s DH uses the same toilet as her and her DD! He is obviously a rapist. Should I report him to SS or the Police?”

It’s insane.

If you don't understand the issues by now I suspect it's intentional.

But honestly, your post was extremely funny.

Hysterical strawmen are often set up to attack women who register even mild annoyance about the infringement of their rights and the reinterpretation of, "this entitled man shoved past a woman into facilities specifically reserved for her and I'm annoyed about it," to, "women want men to have to hold their pee until they die of kidney failure," is a classic of the genre. 😁

MmeChoufleur · 13/05/2025 10:42

HearthLight · 13/05/2025 07:09

Oh the DRAMA!! 😂

  • Woman: expresses a need for single sex facility and annoyance that this is being stomped all over by an entitled, self-centred dickhead.
  • Men (and handmaidens): OH MY GOD MEN WILL JUST DIE THEN SHALL THEY? MAYBE WE SHOULD JUST KILL OURSELVES AND SO YOU CAN STOP MOANING. THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT, ISN'T IT? WILL IT MAKE YOU HAPPY ONCE WE'RE ALL SLAUGHTERED?

😂

Calm down. I’m no handmaiden. I just can’t get worked up over where people of either sex have a pee, yet it’s taken over half of MN.

“I have discovered that my friend’s DH uses the same toilet as her and her DD! He is obviously a rapist. Should I report him to SS or the Police?”

It’s insane.

HearthLight · 13/05/2025 10:38

PhoebesPony · 13/05/2025 10:36

What a ridiculous and extreme reaction!

Isn't it just!

PhoebesPony · 13/05/2025 10:36

HearthLight · 13/05/2025 07:09

Oh the DRAMA!! 😂

  • Woman: expresses a need for single sex facility and annoyance that this is being stomped all over by an entitled, self-centred dickhead.
  • Men (and handmaidens): OH MY GOD MEN WILL JUST DIE THEN SHALL THEY? MAYBE WE SHOULD JUST KILL OURSELVES AND SO YOU CAN STOP MOANING. THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT, ISN'T IT? WILL IT MAKE YOU HAPPY ONCE WE'RE ALL SLAUGHTERED?

😂

What a ridiculous and extreme reaction!

PhoebesPony · 13/05/2025 10:33

I've got IBS and it comes on very suddenly and out of the blue sometimes. That makes me feel quite panicky about dashing to the nearest loo. Yes he should have said something before cutting in but I'd give him the benefit of the doubt. It's not as if men have all suddenly decided to use the ladies! It's a one off and several posters have said they use the men's so can't really complain

ScholesPanda · 13/05/2025 10:25

I think the man sounds like a bit of an entitled twat for assuming his desperation trumped everyone else's.

Having said that, I don't have a huge problem with a man using a self-contained ladies toilet if a woman wasn't waiting (in this case, maybe if he'd let the woman go first and you were left with just the three men waiting) and he was desperate.

Coconutter24 · 13/05/2025 10:22

BlossomIsSoPretty · 12/05/2025 20:56

So it's ok for a man to enter a woman's space because he's desperate? So if all the men's toilet in cubicles were full, it's ok for a man to enter the ladies toilets because he's desperate? And to push ahead of women waiting?

Why didn’t you offer him the disabled toilet and you go after him?

ZeldaFighter · 13/05/2025 09:45

Why didn't he ask politely if he could go before the young woman waiting?

Invisibly disabled in both bladder and / or bowel and vocal chords?

Maybe I do feel sorry for him after all.

Spoiler alert: I don't, he's clearly a twat.

RedToothBrush · 13/05/2025 09:37

Nominative · 13/05/2025 08:52

Women regularly use men's toilets when the queue for the ladies is too long. Why can't it work the other way?

Men don't queue.
Theyd rather piss all over the nearest available lamppost rather than queue.

(Source: Going to festivals with unisex portaloos).

Nominative · 13/05/2025 08:52

BlossomIsSoPretty · 12/05/2025 20:56

So it's ok for a man to enter a woman's space because he's desperate? So if all the men's toilet in cubicles were full, it's ok for a man to enter the ladies toilets because he's desperate? And to push ahead of women waiting?

Women regularly use men's toilets when the queue for the ladies is too long. Why can't it work the other way?

Shortshriftandlethal · 13/05/2025 08:39

SpaceOfAides · 13/05/2025 00:57

Wow what a long back and forth over some silly incident. Maybe he was being an entitled dickhead, maybe he's got Crohns, or maybe just bad diarrhoea. Who knows? Who cares?

Someone, somewhere pushed ahead in the toilet queue and it's suddenly a major feminist issue. A rising of The Patriarchy we must all band together and smash. 🙄

It surely doesn't take too much application of critical thinking to realise that quite often women, and especially younger women, do not feel quite so assertive about their needs, rights and protections. Men, generally, dominate public spaces and take up a lot more space within them than women.

Or does that not fit into your particular feminist school of thought?

Shortshriftandlethal · 13/05/2025 08:37

courageiscontagious · 13/05/2025 05:38

You came across one man being selfish. Nothing to do with trans people or men in general.

Trans people are either male or female just like the rest of us. Adopting a label and a belief system such as 'trans' doesn't make them into a different or special kind of human being.

Shortshriftandlethal · 13/05/2025 08:35

smellyhouseelf · 12/05/2025 20:38

He was desperate. Would you prefer he pissed himself?

How do you know the young women wasn't simlarly so...but didn't feel; quite so entitled and aggressive? How do you know she wasn't bleeding or suffering cystitis?

RufustheFactuaIReindeer · 13/05/2025 08:18

BlossomIsSoPretty · 12/05/2025 20:56

So it's ok for a man to enter a woman's space because he's desperate? So if all the men's toilet in cubicles were full, it's ok for a man to enter the ladies toilets because he's desperate? And to push ahead of women waiting?

Went to a pub and outside the single ladies was a queue of three women

man walks out of the ladies and I said something as he walked away along the lines of cheeky fucker and he explained to me that he had to go to the ladies for a shit cos the gents had no seat on the toilet 😳