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I struggle with the inherent contradictions too. Go back to numerous periods of history and men dressed in all sorts of clothing wigs and make-up and were still definitely men. Little boys and girls were all dressed in similar looking frocks until the age of five or so. It’s just fashion. I often got mistaken for a boy as a child - short hair and dungarees.

Perhaps they are 'Getting Ahead of the Science'? As they do with the law?

You have never been to the City of London where you can encounter a bloke, dressed as a bloke, in the ladies who will snarl explain that they are a gender non-conforming transwoman. I kid you not.

Exactly! The contradictions are astounding.

And one I struggle with. If gender is a social construct, and girls like make up and long hair because society tell them so, why do men who identify as not men conform to this feminine notion of what a woman is instead of just identifying as a woman without altering their appearance?

Maybe we should all have our chromosomes tested at birth, so they know is are XX, XY, XXY XYY and have that recorded?

No it’s a fair point. The SC refers to ‘sex at birth’ without clearly defining what it means by those words. Given some people have indeterminate genitals at birth, then ‘at birth’ actually includes several days after birth. The question is then how many days after birth does the term ‘at birth’ still apply? Obviously a week or two. But it could equally be many more weeks. Years in fact. So until there’s another SC ruling, ‘sex at birth’ could mean that identified into at the age of 40.

And don’t get me started on the lack of definition of ‘sex’.

I have recently read that, "the [Supreme Court] judges were undisciplined with the terminology they used in their decision... and failed to understand the complexity of the words." [My Italics.]

I laughed at that one for ages. Bit like saying, "The astrophysicists were undisciplined with their times tables and failed to understand the complexity of the maths."

Also, "I think that ANY subdivision of people in sport is essentially arbitrary." Because obviously male and female bodies are identical.

That's the level of critical thinking out there.

They claim that they have science on their side and point to dubious/outdated/inaccurate research and ‘experts’ claiming that sex is much more complicated than we previously thought; that sex is a spectrum and that there are male and female brains. If science really is on their side, how come the medical establishment is still identifying sex on scans (or at birth for that matter) based on the baby’s genitals? Surely the NHS wouldn’t continue to use this supposedly outdated practice if science has decided that sex is in fact very complex and not what we previously thought.

There was no doctor present at my birth. Nor that of my daughter.

How do we know we are female?

Exactly.
Interesting to learn that I was just "assigned" the female sex at birth because a doctor noted that I didn't have a penis!
This suggests that I could have visited a doctor each year since, shown her or him a phallus, and requested male assignment.
Maybe I'll do that. It makes as much sense as claiming I'm one or the other and choosing a toilet to enter.

Yes. And typewriters are small alien carrots with shape shifting vampire squirrel souls.

S'all true, I read it on the internet.

I’m not using birth sex because birth certificates can be reissued with the sex marker changed based on feelings and a GRC.

But can’t be reissued if there was a clerical error.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/nov/19/baby-girl-registered-wrong-sex-mansfield-registration-office

Do share the link...

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“Biological sex” isn’t a scientific term, it is a buzzword anti-trans groups like to use to describe birth sex.

OK then - everybody should use the toilet designated for their biological birth sex.
Is that less anti-trans?

Is there a list of the countries that assign gender at birth? I’m intrigued.

Agree, it’s all getting very boring now

Ha. Crossed post!

There is no point trying to be logical about any of it. These people don’t do logic.

If biological sex isn’t really a thing, then there can surely be no such thing as gender dysphoria. How can you be distressed by the sex of your body if sex isn’t really a thing anyway?

I’m so tired of all this.

They walk among us. People who think that oppressive cultural gender norms include the idea that women must have ovaries.

the gender you were assigned at birth
The what now?

This is so nonsensical that I'm guessing it came straight from Reddit?

They don’t.

Am now flashing back to that episode of Friends where Phoebe says she doesn't believe in gravity