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NEU says Transwomen must be able to use women's facilities.

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GargoylesofBeelzebub · 11/05/2025 23:30

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14700723/Teaching-union-Supreme-Court-gender-trans-toilets.html

What are they thinking?!!! They can lobby the government all they like, the law is the law.

Are the unions going to end up destroying themselves over this foolishness? The lawyers must be rubbing their hands in glee!!

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teawamutu · 12/05/2025 08:20

I asked my union rep last week (not the NEU but about equally demented) whether there is any point my remaining a member if my union was not only putting forward motions to actively undermine the rights of half its members, but doing so in such a hostile environment that no-one actually dared speak up and offer an alternate view.

Haven't heard back.

akkakk · 12/05/2025 00:12

Blackdow · 11/05/2025 23:45

Saying “the law is the law” is a little naive. That’s what lobbying is for; laws are changed and rewritten. I’d be more worried about it than “haha, the law is the law.”

And still a man will be a man - you can legislate whatever you want - but laws can’t change reality or biology!

and even if there is lots of lobbying the law right now says that men can not use women’s spaces - hypothesising about what could happen in the future is irrelevant - it is illegal now

DuesToTheDirt · 11/05/2025 23:51

And now that I read the article, I see that the calibre of the NEU reps must be very low indeed.

"The NEU motion ‘condemned’ the guidance and called for it to be withdrawn, saying it is ‘incoherent and unclear’."

If anyone can't understand the EHRC guidance they are half a brick short of a full load.

DuesToTheDirt · 11/05/2025 23:48

Actually, I shouldn't be surprised. I was a union rep once, despite not having much talent for it. I did it because no-one else would, so I suppose if other unions are like that one, then if you have an agenda to push then you can put yourself forward for union positions and it's easy to get elected.

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GargoylesofBeelzebub · 11/05/2025 23:46

Blackdow · 11/05/2025 23:45

Saying “the law is the law” is a little naive. That’s what lobbying is for; laws are changed and rewritten. I’d be more worried about it than “haha, the law is the law.”

Changing the law will take many years though, so for now the law is the law. That's not naive that's reality.

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Helleofabore · 11/05/2025 23:45

DuesToTheDirt · 11/05/2025 23:44

Oh, another union that thinks women don't matter. What a surprise.

I thought the Supreme Court judgement would be the end of all this nonsense, but I foresee yet more court cases coming....

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Indeed.

Blackdow · 11/05/2025 23:45

Saying “the law is the law” is a little naive. That’s what lobbying is for; laws are changed and rewritten. I’d be more worried about it than “haha, the law is the law.”

DuesToTheDirt · 11/05/2025 23:44

Oh, another union that thinks women don't matter. What a surprise.

I thought the Supreme Court judgement would be the end of all this nonsense, but I foresee yet more court cases coming....

Bannedontherun · 11/05/2025 23:43

@mordaunt no he is not, he has come around to realising he was wrong,.

mordaunt · 11/05/2025 23:39

Debbie Hayton is part of the NEU isn’t he. Reckon he’s behind this.

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GargoylesofBeelzebub · 11/05/2025 23:39

There's just such a massive disconnect between the people that go for these positions and the general public!!

I'd really love to see polling on what the members actually think.

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Bannedontherun · 11/05/2025 23:38

Not on point but if I were a staffer for some senior MP i would be getting a bit bored with all these letters.

SternJoyousBee · 11/05/2025 23:37

Unions are not the friends of women. I hate to say it (as a lifelong Labour voter) but I think men on the left are the biggest misogynists.

NPET · 11/05/2025 23:36

Well I'm glad I'm not a teacher!