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“Why aren’t you getting changed”. Man asks female Darlington nurse this 3 times in female changeroom

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CrocsNotDocs · 11/05/2025 06:47

More details re the Darlington nurses. I don’t know what to say. This is outrageous. Just fucking outrageous.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14698557/I-begged-bosses-not-let-trans-nurse-invaded-changing-room-intimate-operation-refused-didnt-want-hurt-feelings.html

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Hermiaxx · 11/05/2025 08:08

Just when I thought the this dystopian madness couldn’t get any worse! WTF!!

SparklyGlitterballs · 11/05/2025 08:08

Merrymouse · 11/05/2025 08:03

This case is a very concrete illustration of why the SC decided as they did.

What Is the difference between Rose and any other man, and what prevents Rose from obtaining a GRC?

Not a lot, apart from a new name and long hair.

I personally don't believe a man can become a woman, even with full surgery, but it particularly disgusts me that a bloke can call himself a different name and have long hair claim to be a woman🤬.

Ritasueandbobtoo9 · 11/05/2025 08:08

Just crying reading that…

Abused by her father, abused by the NHS.

Disgusting, do your job Wes.

Ohyoudodoyou · 11/05/2025 08:05

Thanks to Karen for being so courageous and to the colleagues fighting this fight with her. We know from years of being on this forum and watching this ideology unfold, that ‘Rose’ would have been one of many such men barging into such safe spaces. Just where would this have ended if women didn’t speak up? What will women’s spaces look like in 5,10,20 years time, full of lots of narcissistic’Roses’ unapologetically and delightedly going anywhere they want unchallenged. It mentions ‘Rose’ has a partner and that they were looking to start a family. That woman could well be on here one day talking about how her teen daughter has just said how she was in a changing room and 6 men dressed as women were in there with her. For we know it wouldn’t have stopped at one ‘Rose’.

Waitwhat23 · 11/05/2025 08:05

“Well, Rose is a woman so Rose has a right to be there”.

A right to be there. What the actual fuck.

Merrilydancing · 11/05/2025 08:04

That was a difficult read and I am so angry for Karen having been put in this position.

I hope the trust finally sees sense and does the morally right thing.

I do think that a lot of organisations are quickly becoming aware of these legal cases and will change as the law is now very clear.

Merrymouse · 11/05/2025 08:03

This case is a very concrete illustration of why the SC decided as they did.

What Is the difference between Rose and any other man, and what prevents Rose from obtaining a GRC?

Theeyeballsinthesky · 11/05/2025 08:03

Fucking hell!!! As ever I’m boggled that supposedly intelligent people’s brains and compassion desert them in these scenarios

i wonder if our resident TRAs will be along to defend this or will they ignore this thread like the plague like they do with every other thread which demonstrates so clearly why women need single sex spaces

TimeForATerf · 11/05/2025 08:01

Bloody hell, I’ve just cried after reading this and I can be a hard faced cow.

How the fuck have employers been able to get away with this. I hope this tribunal goes as far as it can and the trust is suitably punished and humiliated and these lovely ladies, get compensation. Poor, poor Karen.

No wonder they were so pissed off when it was delayed again.

Oldfashioneddinosaur · 11/05/2025 08:01

This is so unbelievably fucked up. I'm not often shocked any more, but I feel sick that they wouldn't take him off her surgery.

TheKhakiQuail · 11/05/2025 08:00

Even if there was absolutely no other factors involved, how can you put a doctor or nurse in the operating theatre involved in surgery on a patient they are in a legal dispute with. Surely, it is a very clear conflict of interest, and risk to all involved.

CarefulN0w · 11/05/2025 07:59

TheaBrandt1 · 11/05/2025 07:55

Found it moving the way the work colleagues are stepping up to support this lady. Wonder if they would have taken it this far if their colleague wasn’t so badly affected? They may have hated it but stoically put up with it which is the easier option in the current climate.

Completely agree and I’m so glad that Karen has their support. If we, who don’t know Karen and Rose, are angry, I can only imagine how unbelievably, stratospherically angry these women must be about the treatment of their colleague.

Dutchesss · 11/05/2025 07:57

I cried reading that. How can this have been let happen? So many people let this happen. Karen deserves better, but the damage is already done.

HumphreyCobblers · 11/05/2025 07:56

I thought I was beyond being shocked and then I read this.

TheaBrandt1 · 11/05/2025 07:55

Found it moving the way the work colleagues are stepping up to support this lady. Wonder if they would have taken it this far if their colleague wasn’t so badly affected? They may have hated it but stoically put up with it which is the easier option in the current climate.

QuarterHorse · 11/05/2025 07:55

This is gross. Poor Karen, but what a brave women she is. I support her all the way. I am sick of hearing about bleating heart NHS and HR bods who have actively taken away women's rights, and continue to do so. But traumatising women like this is a whole new level. They deserve the push and the nurses deserve all the compensation they can get.

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 11/05/2025 07:52

It makes me completely understand how women patients are generally treated so poorly by our medical professionals when this is how they treat their staff.

Dismissive, misogynistic and disrespectful. Let’s centre the men at every possible opportunity. It bloody enrages me, that poor woman.

SugarPlumFairyCakes · 11/05/2025 07:51

Absolutely fuck off Darlington Trust. So angry and upset reading this. How dare they put this brave woman (and the other nurses) through this.

As a survivor of male abuse years ago in what should have been a single sex space, afraid to speak out at a charity workplace with full-on TRA's, handmaids, and no single sex spaces, I wish you all the best and hope that sanity prevails.

Buffypaws · 11/05/2025 07:48

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 11/05/2025 07:24

What the actual fucking fuck.

Seriously I’ve been in this game for years but WHAT THE FUCK DID I JUST READ

Merrymouse · 11/05/2025 07:46

One of the similarities with the Fife case is the appalling management - irrespective of the issues involved.

Just the existence of the legal dispute should have prevented Rose from being involved with Karen’s healthcare.

RainbowZebraWarrior · 11/05/2025 07:46

"Long overdue that senior people signing off on all this get the sack for promoting voyeurism and indecent exposure"

This all day long!

NotMeekNotObedient · 11/05/2025 07:43

Wow this is almost unbelievable. The poor women.

Sadly the only way this Supreme Court ruling is going to make things change is if cases are brought to court. I suspect we will need a lot. So many organisations are trying to stand with their existing 'trans inclusive' policies.

The thing that stands out most is time and time again no one cares about women's feelings - I guess we shouldn't be surprised it's always been that way.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 11/05/2025 07:42

Thank you to Karen and the other brave Darlington nurses for exposing this charade in the NHS. Long overdue that senior people signing off on all this get the sack for promoting voyeurism and indecent exposure.

wantmorenow · 11/05/2025 07:42

Thank you Karen and @CrocsNotDocs for sharing. Shameful lack of safeguarding staff and patients from NHS. Streeting needs to step the fuck up now.

Rightsraptor · 11/05/2025 07:42

Almost inevitably there are a few stupid comments, but so very many supportive ones. I wonder if the HR departments etc ever read them? They'd probably just mutter 'bigots' and ignore though.

This is all so shocking and there's no reason now, post April 16th, for it to continue. Yet it does.

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