“Why aren’t you getting changed”. Man asks female Darlington nurse this 3 times in female changeroom

State-sanctioned abuse of women by a man. Totally and utterly unforgivable.

They say ‘Rose’ is ‘clearly’ not at fault, but the undercurrent is that that man is very much at fault. They just have to skirt on the edge of libel.

That was a hard read not just because of what this woman suffered as a child but also the cruelty of the NHS HR and leadership team in how they responded.

For me the absolute low point is telling her she would have to have her hysterectomy cancelled if she wouldn't accept this man being part of her nursing team during the operation. Just the complete lack of care for her as a patient is astonishing.

And Wes Streeting has had plenty of time to deal with this he needs to sort this out now in line with the law. Politicians are such cowards but even a politician should be able to see the right thing to do when it is this obvious

From what I've read this morning I think there should be an enquiry into the HR department at Darlington. That sounds to me like deliberate abuse of an abuse survivor.

That's not just 'capture', that's sadistic. It's on purpose.

There is no ‘pretending to be trans’.

We established that when women were forced to refer to their rapists as ‘he’.

Stonewall law starts with Hayley Cropper/Christine Goodwin/article 8, and quickly takes a left turn and argues that sex doesn’t exist anyway.

I don’t know if it’s even supposed to make sense.

Also the HR regulatory bodies appear to be ideologically captured so the misinformation was being filtered top down as well. The ideological capture goes beyond the NHS and into regulatory authorities for professions as well.

I read that and couldn’t believe how this person had been given so much power in which to harm women. The HR team needs ‘re-education’ by the sounds of it.

bloody hell. What a brave woman she is. So angry at those who allowed this to happen

Remember. Anyone who says they are transgender is transgender. We have had this mantra drummed into our head for years.

I think we have to acknowledge that this is true because there are no biological or neurological markers for being transgender. It is only belief. And anyone can believe anything about themselves that they want.

I think that for too long some people have convinced themselves that having a male person with their penis and testicles removed included is somehow ok. But it never was. Because those people haven’t changed from being male people. Some people just like to think that rewarding some male people for removing their genitalia is an act of kindness.

This.

They've called us all the names under the sun and wrung their hands over the feelings of men who want to access women's spaces.

They said we didn't want men in women's spaces because we were bigots and homophobes and 'probably racist'.

We shouldn't have to spell it out.

Women need our stuff back, for every reason that this article raises.

Any woman who's been the victim of indecent exposure or harassment or abuse will understand.

Karen, I'm so very sorry, and I'm in awe of how brave and strong you are. All my very best.

HR even wanted to give this man a further opportunity to abuse his colleagues.

The women were told it was Rose’s right to be in that changing room, and they could change elsewhere (‘they basically gave us a glorified cupboard,’ says Karen) if it was a problem.

‘Being told we needed to be “re-educated” was devastating,’ says Karen. ‘To make it worse they suggested that Rose should be the one re-educating us. Rose would be happy to do it, they said.’

I'm sure he would.

From the article:
There is absolutely no suggestion that Rose – who has a female partner, with whom he was trying to start a family – intended to cause her physical harm on that day, in 2023, but she insists Rose’s (half-dressed) presence, and behaviour, felt menacing.

This isn't a quote. Does the DM use correct sex pronouns usually, or has this just 'slipped in'?

Even so! I would rather be alone forever than have a man like “Rose” in my life. Dear god.

We don't know the background.

This needs to be in every newspaper and all over the BBC. When you think you’ve heard the worst bits of any of these cases, something else is revealed that’s even worse.

There’s something very moving about a group coming together to back the one that is hurt.

Going to court is tough and horrible Dh is a litigator his whole job is avoiding court its a last resort when negotiations fail it’s really stressful.

Time for NHS managers to be held accountable and publicly shamed, just as we are beginning to see with the Letby inquiry.

I'd like these mealy-mouthed bureaucrats at Darlington to be named and made redundant. Why is Wes Streeting doing nothing?

It's not just immigration - it's stuff like this that are making people turn away from Labour in droves. Even Kemi has got this right.

It is institutional capture through and through. Disgusting, and shame on all those who supported it. And even still do - it beggars belief.

One thing I'd take from this awful story is that the nurses themselves have been a tremendous support to Karen. Their solidarity and friendship is really heartening to read about.

Then you hear that the NHS is running out of money & hard choices have to be made regarding people's treatments.

Well, how about ditching the illegal adherence to gender ideology? How about stop wasting public money on expensive ideological agendas & legal proceedings.

The NHS should return to its original purpose of providing healthcare & also being a decent employer for all its staff, not just a small minority.

Adding my voice to say 'Thank you Karen from the bottom of my heart' for being truly brave enough to tell your story to help other women and girls...
And for your colleagues who put their heads above the parapet to support you and protect others.
Thank you..

Yes, thank fuck for Karen ❤️

I hope the EHRC take all of this into consideration when formulating their statutory guidance.

But I thought it would be obvious if a man was just pretending to be trans for kicks and we would be able to deal with it….?

Oh, no. Back in the REAL WORLD Apparently we wouldn’t.

Thanks for this link. We know these stories exist, but it's so moving and inspiring when someone has the immense courage to go public in the way that Karen has.

Shame on everyone involved at every level that let it get that far.

I hate that this woman has had to share this horrific part of her history with the world because her employer is morally bankrupt. She is very brave indeed.