“Why aren’t you getting changed”. Man asks female Darlington nurse this 3 times in female changeroom

I didn't think I had a problem with reading comprehension, until I realised from the posts on here that the gynae operation - where the management was saying that Rose might be upset if not allowed to attend - was Karen's own op!

My brain must have blanked that, because it is so outrageous.

Can you imagine those poor nurses being made to sit in a room and be "re-educated" by this man?

What is also unforgivable is these sort of situations have allowed walloper organisations like Christian Conern to get credibility and a foothold as all the other representatives (unions etc) capitulated so easily to gender shite.

The NHS has always ( IME) had a misogynistic, bullying culture. Gender ideology has provided another vehicle for this culture. I am so glad I am retired. This ideology was just becoming visible in my sphere of practice in 2016. I remember pondering the dangers and risks. It has been much worse than I ever thought possible.

I agree. Everyone should read this.

From what I've read this morning I think there should be an enquiry into the HR department at Darlington. That sounds to me like deliberate abuse of an abuse survivor.
That's not just 'capture', that's sadistic. It's on purpose.

I agree Arabella. They have deliberately re traumatised a staff member every time she goes to work.
Anything else aside, Karen should be due a large personal injuries payout from her employer.
That article is hard enough to read, I can’t begin to imagine how hard the lived experience is. Karen is a brave, brave woman

We've all seen that smirk, haven't we?

Karen has been unbelievably brave here.

I think the only way out will be slowly dragging ourselves, one court case at a time. Anyone who is too scared to complain or can't afford to sue will be collateral damage. The law is clear, but the NHS will not comply until they are overwhelmed by the weight of lost court cases and fines.

The treatment of the nurses is absolutely disgusting. My heart goes out to Karen. Well done to them all for speaking out and taking this action. But it should not be necessary. It shows the baked in misogyny in the NHS.

This all over - I work in a senior NHS role and removing all else from this case, a legal dispute for any reason is a conflict of interest and I absolutely would not have allowed rose to assist at Karen’s surgery, that’s appalling management. The fact rose would even want to is also concerning as it looks like another power play when Karen is at her most vulnerable. Nothing but support for these nurses, they are remarkably brave.

Genuinely, every policy we have seen. All of Scotland, all of London, all of the Midlands, looking like all of East of England.

Every. Single. One.

I can only hope that a decision on Sandie Peggie’s case might be handed down before the Darlington case starts and that the Darlington Trust changes their policy, apologises and settles. That way those nurses don’t have to go through the stress of the tribunal.

There is no way the NHS is coming out of these cases with a reputation for caring about all their staff and patient’s wellbeing. Only a select few.

All thanks to Stonewall and those like Stonewall who directly influenced policy.

This is horrendous. Why the actual fuck is anyone justifying this? This is genuinely woman-hating behaviour 🤬

that is a hard read but so fucking important to share

Karen is so brave

just when I thought I couldn’t be any more shocked

I hope every other news outlet report on these facts because people need to open their eyes and see the shit for what it really is

That was a shocking read. I stand with Karen.

See, that's a far worse scenario than I'd imagined.

If this is genuinely all NHS policy then we are in a very dark place, and I'm not sure how we get out.

It is very frightening - if that is the level of care shown to a member of staff who understands the system, how is everyone else being treated?

Exactly….the whole thing is shocking but this part is lunacy

She's outed herself.

Because the man is afraid of being outed to other men.

The hypocrisy.

Reminds me of the Aimee Challenor carcrash https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/charity-criticised-handing-senior-role-20731388

So many people harmed by CSA and, in some cases, it explains a lot of the long hair name-change only-furry type trans presentation I think. Sad that they fo on to be abusers themselves like this guy.

So sorry it happened to Karen. Bad enough but to then be absued and triggered all over again in her workplace is almost beyond the pale. I hope the nurses win and she gets some compensation. Life and work is hard enough without this BS.

They knew she was distressed and they attempted to coerce her into accepting this man 'Rose' as part of her team of care practitioners.

That is way past a line. That sounds so chillingly deliberate. Was this one person?

'Rose' is almost immaterial in this situation. A patient has raised concerns about an HCP due to trauma and the hospital has tried to coerced her into accepting a situation that will further traumatise her. It's grotesque.

It’s not just Darlington. It is all NHS trusts. They were literally following written NHS policy. It is a disgrace, but everything that happened in Darlington is what NHS employees are instructed to do. Including the removal of healthcare from patients who object.

I cannot say this loud or often enough. This is not a bug. This is not some nasty HR department. This is not a random person out to get a bunch of nurses. This is endemic. It is built into every NHS policy that it can possibly be built into.

Exactly. It's beyond belief.

This was a hard read.

Karen should never have been put in a position to have to disclose this. She's very brave.

If this doesn't make people who have previously ignored the issue think "maybe this isn't right" then I don't know what will.

It is a powerful way to change the narrative from "those bigoted nurses". No, strong women who backed their colleague in something so clearly wrong. They are all incredible.

This is frightening. Genuinely frightening. I’m so sorry that Karen and her past trauma is being dragged through the press. I want to know where her rights were? Why Rose didn’t have the decency to step aside for a fellow human being in distress? Why did Rose matter more than Karen? In any other setting anyone asking why she wasn’t getting undressed by anyone would be clanging warning bells but not here. The situation around operation beggars belief. I’m sick to my stomach with having to watch women like Karen be publicly shamed and vilified just for simply wanting their privacy respected. Good luck and much love to you and all the quietly stalwart women in the same boat.