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“Why aren’t you getting changed”. Man asks female Darlington nurse this 3 times in female changeroom

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CrocsNotDocs · 11/05/2025 06:47

More details re the Darlington nurses. I don’t know what to say. This is outrageous. Just fucking outrageous.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14698557/I-begged-bosses-not-let-trans-nurse-invaded-changing-room-intimate-operation-refused-didnt-want-hurt-feelings.html

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RedToothBrush · 11/05/2025 14:03

teawamutu · 11/05/2025 14:00

Because whenever these threads are started in aibu they get moved here.

To keep the see no evil peeps happy.

This subject is 'boring' you see.

yourhairiswinterfire · 11/05/2025 14:02

'Yet more batshit nonsense from Reddit

I know some people connected to this and have seen pictures of the nurse, their argument is just transphobic that the nurse isn’t fem enough, she presents as a woman, has long hair etc.'

Oh, well that changes everything! He's got long hair ladies, get your kit off for him you vile transphobes🙄

ArabellaScott · 11/05/2025 14:01

fromorbit · 11/05/2025 14:00

On point as always

J.K. Rowling

Every sneering commentator and smug politician who can’t see what the fuss is about when it comes to single-sex facilities needs to read this piece, then explain why this woman’s trauma is of no importance to them.

Well, that's still the charitable interpretation.

Either women's trauma is of no importance, or ... it's of great importance.

fromorbit · 11/05/2025 14:00

On point as always

J.K. Rowling

Every sneering commentator and smug politician who can’t see what the fuss is about when it comes to single-sex facilities needs to read this piece, then explain why this woman’s trauma is of no importance to them.

https://x.com/jk_rowling

teawamutu · 11/05/2025 14:00

AnnieAzul · 11/05/2025 13:58

Absolutely dreadful. Why isn’t this on AIBU?

Because whenever these threads are started in aibu they get moved here.

WearyAuldWumman · 11/05/2025 13:59

ArabellaScott · 11/05/2025 13:23

Holy fuck.

Of course, I went to look because I always do what I'm told not to do.

It's utterly bewildering.

Copy pasting a few comments here, but I'll add a bit of space so you can skip them, as some are upsetting.

Here's the right side of history Being Kind to a woman again. Someone tell me that this isn't a movement motivated by a deep hatred of women:

'Is her name really Karen?'

'It's vile transphobic bigotry'

'Eat shit, Karen, you vile vile bigot'

'This is yet another case of TERF yelling dubious accusations of "RAPE!" against someone who isn't even the alleged rapist. Their tactic is saying, "Well I have trauma and trans women trigger that so ipso facto it's sexual abuse not to let me have my own way". TERFs fake rape accusations all the time as a strategy and it's fucking disgusting. '

'blatant weaponisation of trauma '

'I don’t mean to be rude but at least a couple of the Darlington Nurses don’t fit conventional feminine beauty standards'

'She's hiding behind it to try and justify her prejudice'

'Karens transphobia is also exposed by her actions and statements.
Karen's arguments rest on the incorrect belief that trans women are men.'

'The lack of empathy and compassion is off the charts but of course they see themselves as the victims'

'she is just a transphobic pos who wants to jump through logical hoops to get sympathy for her bigotry. '

'That Karen has a really nasty vibe to her. Was my first impression when I saw a photo. Kind of malicious and almost attention seeking. I’m sorry if she was SAd, but so was I and I don’t go about my life trying to hurt others. Some people are just born cunts. GCs are very good at playing the victim card.'

https://www.reddit.com/r/transgenderUK/comments/1kjvhio/absolutely_disgusting_transphobic_mail_piece_on/

I occasionally look at Reddit. I go there mainly for a specific language page.

My impression is that most of the posters there are in their teens or twenties. I live in the hope that they'll mature as they grow older.

AnnieAzul · 11/05/2025 13:58

Absolutely dreadful. Why isn’t this on AIBU?

yourhairiswinterfire · 11/05/2025 13:58

ArabellaScott · 11/05/2025 13:23

Holy fuck.

Of course, I went to look because I always do what I'm told not to do.

It's utterly bewildering.

Copy pasting a few comments here, but I'll add a bit of space so you can skip them, as some are upsetting.

Here's the right side of history Being Kind to a woman again. Someone tell me that this isn't a movement motivated by a deep hatred of women:

'Is her name really Karen?'

'It's vile transphobic bigotry'

'Eat shit, Karen, you vile vile bigot'

'This is yet another case of TERF yelling dubious accusations of "RAPE!" against someone who isn't even the alleged rapist. Their tactic is saying, "Well I have trauma and trans women trigger that so ipso facto it's sexual abuse not to let me have my own way". TERFs fake rape accusations all the time as a strategy and it's fucking disgusting. '

'blatant weaponisation of trauma '

'I don’t mean to be rude but at least a couple of the Darlington Nurses don’t fit conventional feminine beauty standards'

'She's hiding behind it to try and justify her prejudice'

'Karens transphobia is also exposed by her actions and statements.
Karen's arguments rest on the incorrect belief that trans women are men.'

'The lack of empathy and compassion is off the charts but of course they see themselves as the victims'

'she is just a transphobic pos who wants to jump through logical hoops to get sympathy for her bigotry. '

'That Karen has a really nasty vibe to her. Was my first impression when I saw a photo. Kind of malicious and almost attention seeking. I’m sorry if she was SAd, but so was I and I don’t go about my life trying to hurt others. Some people are just born cunts. GCs are very good at playing the victim card.'

https://www.reddit.com/r/transgenderUK/comments/1kjvhio/absolutely_disgusting_transphobic_mail_piece_on/

All this abuse of a CSA survivor because she didn't want to get her clothes off in front of a man.

Hideous, dangerous, entitled, vile, woman-hating bellends.

NoFineBalance · 11/05/2025 13:38

Lolapusht · 11/05/2025 13:32

Not verified, but found this on X.

This is allegedly ‘Rose’

https://x.com/ajatheempress/status/1921486740100964506?s=61&t=_cKTNp_TyAyzDViEOCJDFQ]]

You can really see how Shakespeare may have been inspired....

Whooowhooohoo · 11/05/2025 13:37

ParmaVioletTea · 11/05/2025 13:33

Rose looks oh soooo feminine. A catch for any man!

Edited

Brave Rose, the definition of woman. .

PrettyDamnCosmic · 11/05/2025 13:35

Lolapusht · 11/05/2025 13:32

Not verified, but found this on X.

This is allegedly ‘Rose’

https://x.com/ajatheempress/status/1921486740100964506?s=61&t=_cKTNp_TyAyzDViEOCJDFQ]]

Yet more batshit nonsense from Reddit

I know some people connected to this and have seen pictures of the nurse, their argument is just transphobic that the nurse isn’t fem enough, she presents as a woman, has long hair etc.

ParmaVioletTea · 11/05/2025 13:33

Rose looks oh soooo feminine. A catch for any man!

OvaHere · 11/05/2025 13:33

ArabellaScott · 11/05/2025 13:23

Holy fuck.

Of course, I went to look because I always do what I'm told not to do.

It's utterly bewildering.

Copy pasting a few comments here, but I'll add a bit of space so you can skip them, as some are upsetting.

Here's the right side of history Being Kind to a woman again. Someone tell me that this isn't a movement motivated by a deep hatred of women:

'Is her name really Karen?'

'It's vile transphobic bigotry'

'Eat shit, Karen, you vile vile bigot'

'This is yet another case of TERF yelling dubious accusations of "RAPE!" against someone who isn't even the alleged rapist. Their tactic is saying, "Well I have trauma and trans women trigger that so ipso facto it's sexual abuse not to let me have my own way". TERFs fake rape accusations all the time as a strategy and it's fucking disgusting. '

'blatant weaponisation of trauma '

'I don’t mean to be rude but at least a couple of the Darlington Nurses don’t fit conventional feminine beauty standards'

'She's hiding behind it to try and justify her prejudice'

'Karens transphobia is also exposed by her actions and statements.
Karen's arguments rest on the incorrect belief that trans women are men.'

'The lack of empathy and compassion is off the charts but of course they see themselves as the victims'

'she is just a transphobic pos who wants to jump through logical hoops to get sympathy for her bigotry. '

'That Karen has a really nasty vibe to her. Was my first impression when I saw a photo. Kind of malicious and almost attention seeking. I’m sorry if she was SAd, but so was I and I don’t go about my life trying to hurt others. Some people are just born cunts. GCs are very good at playing the victim card.'

https://www.reddit.com/r/transgenderUK/comments/1kjvhio/absolutely_disgusting_transphobic_mail_piece_on/

It really has been a blessing that transphobia came along to give men a progressive reason for open misogyny. You'd be forgiven for thinking it was by design.

Lolapusht · 11/05/2025 13:32

Not verified, but found this on X.

This is allegedly ‘Rose’

https://x.com/ajatheempress/status/1921486740100964506?s=61&t=_cKTNp_TyAyzDViEOCJDFQ]]

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“Why aren’t you getting changed”. Man asks female Darlington nurse this 3 times in female changeroom
GailBlancheViola · 11/05/2025 13:29

Waitwhat23 · 11/05/2025 12:27

The scolds will flock to any thread with JKR, toilets or pronouns in the title but threads like this, the ET threads, threads about rape crisis services etc etc and they are conspicuous in their absence.

They're just cowards and can't back up any of their shite arguments.

Edited

All the good little trans allies are conspicuous by their absence too, but if they are reading/lurking this is what you are schilling for, this treatment of women is what you are advocating for and why? What are you getting out of it? You know the men pushing for this have absolutely zero respect for you don't you? At the best they view you as useful idiots and laugh at how easily you have been conned into doing their work for them. I won't repeat the worst they say about you. Furthermore they are not in the slightest bit interested in you, they are only interested in the women who don't consent, have seen through the ideology and pushed back.

AhBiscuits · 11/05/2025 13:27

Thank goodness for Karen and women like her, who are prepared to fight, despite the horrific abuse they have to endure because of it.

In McDonalds today I saw a man in a dress walking into the woman's toilets. I wasn't going to be the one to cause a scene, but if my 9 year old DD had been in there at the time, I would have followed him in. I'd be risking my career if labelled as a transphobic bigot, and most of us just aren't in a position to be able to do that.

I really hope the tide it turning on this madness.

TwoLoonsAndASprout · 11/05/2025 13:25

Theeyeballsinthesky · 11/05/2025 13:20

Thank yooou - I never know how to do that!

If you go to archive.is and cut and paste your url into the bottom box, it should pop up archived versions. If you’re the first person to look for an archive version, there won’t be any result, in which case you can paste your urL in the top box and then wait a minute or so while it archives for you.

Whooowhooohoo · 11/05/2025 13:25

The conflict of interest, putting ROSE in the operating theatre is awful - threatening behavior. Who is running this hospital? If something went wrong there would be a huge huge conflict of interest malpractice issue. Stupid leadership @ Darlington.

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I read this DM carefully, they mention Rose in relationship with a woman (haha whatever that means!) and they are trying for a baby. Are we supposed to think that is why Rose has penis & testicles … is that the excuse for Rose still being a man? (If Rose so unhappy being a man, do IVF with frozen sperm and transition asap !!) Pathetic really, if that’s the excuse for Poor Poor Rose still being a man when she feels like a woman. Rose wants to be a man to impregnate a woman, then be a woman to be the mum. Rose wanting to have it all at expense of others.

The levels of psychological manipulation in this case are appalling, with Rose at the centre revellling in her ability to create a special world just for him/her self - where everyone is saying yes Rose, whatever you want.
Rose has no right to do this. I stand with Darlington Nurses.

CoaltownFifer · 11/05/2025 13:24

Why does one person's feelings trump another person's access to medical care? Surely they are neither relatable nor comparable. What a horror story that probably shocks, but doesn't surprise any of us born with a vagina.

I hope the tide starts turning on these public bodies with the recent high profile cases, with all credit to those women who have put their careers and reputations on the line to help the rest of us fight back.

I work in the public sector too and those of us at the bottom of the tree, including most junior level management are all secretly supportive of Sandi, Karen and JKR etc, but wouldn't dare say it loud enough for the upper management to hear, because the fear of being singled out is real. It is a sad state of affairs that we have been silenced on our own human rights as a female to pacify those whose pretence has gifted them the few rights that was just ours, and didn't we have to fight hard enough for them too, eh.

ArabellaScott · 11/05/2025 13:23

EweSurname · 11/05/2025 12:00

Don’t go over on Reddit, they’re having no problems labelling her a bigot and transphobe.

I can’t imagine how traumatising it must have been for Karen to be put in that position and being told by her employers that she was the problem. Hats off to her for taking a stand

Holy fuck.

Of course, I went to look because I always do what I'm told not to do.

It's utterly bewildering.

Copy pasting a few comments here, but I'll add a bit of space so you can skip them, as some are upsetting.

Here's the right side of history Being Kind to a woman again. Someone tell me that this isn't a movement motivated by a deep hatred of women:

'Is her name really Karen?'

'It's vile transphobic bigotry'

'Eat shit, Karen, you vile vile bigot'

'This is yet another case of TERF yelling dubious accusations of "RAPE!" against someone who isn't even the alleged rapist. Their tactic is saying, "Well I have trauma and trans women trigger that so ipso facto it's sexual abuse not to let me have my own way". TERFs fake rape accusations all the time as a strategy and it's fucking disgusting. '

'blatant weaponisation of trauma '

'I don’t mean to be rude but at least a couple of the Darlington Nurses don’t fit conventional feminine beauty standards'

'She's hiding behind it to try and justify her prejudice'

'Karens transphobia is also exposed by her actions and statements.
Karen's arguments rest on the incorrect belief that trans women are men.'

'The lack of empathy and compassion is off the charts but of course they see themselves as the victims'

'she is just a transphobic pos who wants to jump through logical hoops to get sympathy for her bigotry. '

'That Karen has a really nasty vibe to her. Was my first impression when I saw a photo. Kind of malicious and almost attention seeking. I’m sorry if she was SAd, but so was I and I don’t go about my life trying to hurt others. Some people are just born cunts. GCs are very good at playing the victim card.'

https://www.reddit.com/r/transgenderUK/comments/1kjvhio/absolutely_disgusting_transphobic_mail_piece_on/

Theeyeballsinthesky · 11/05/2025 13:20

TwoLoonsAndASprout · 11/05/2025 13:19

Archive link: https://archive.is/yisow

Thank yooou - I never know how to do that!

Ramblingnamechanger · 11/05/2025 13:20

Just read this thread. Just when we thought it couldn’t get worse. Utterly appalled by the Trusts actions and their treatment of Karen. I hope all these managers are seriously thinking about resigning. Full support to her, Sandy and anyone else fighting for our rights. Wes, you need to take action NOW.

TwoLoonsAndASprout · 11/05/2025 13:19

Theeyeballsinthesky · 11/05/2025 13:15

This ideology is being pushed by a few deranged misogynists and their handmaiden allies, who have ended up running NHS trusts, universities, police forces, schools and the like.

Janice Turner did a really good article on Saturday which although not about this specifically feels very relevant

<a class="break-all" href="https://archive.ph/2025.05.10-072454/www.thetimes.com/comment/columnists/article/voters-are-sick-of-lectures-from-the-lanyard-class-gxbqg5zhk" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://archive.ph/2025.05.10-072454/www.thetimes.com/comment/columnists/article/voters-are-sick-of-lectures-from-the-lanyard-class-gxbqg5zhk

the landyard class is spot on as a phrase (saying that as a member of what would definitely be seen as the lanyard class)

Archive link: https://archive.is/yisow

BundleBoogie · 11/05/2025 13:18

PrettyDamnCosmic · 11/05/2025 13:07

More total batshitery from Reddit

They also criticised her for not taking hormone therapy - she wanted to wait because she wants her own biological children. This, of course, is something these nurses can't/refuse to get their heads round. The lack of empathy and compassion is off the charts but of course they see themselves as the victims. Ugh.

So this bloke wants to father his own children and they can’t see a contradiction with his view of himself as a ‘woman’?

I’m going to stick my neck out and say that fathering a child from one’s own sperm is the least womanly act on the planet - nay the universe.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 11/05/2025 13:15

This ideology is being pushed by a few deranged misogynists and their handmaiden allies, who have ended up running NHS trusts, universities, police forces, schools and the like.

Janice Turner did a really good article on Saturday which although not about this specifically feels very relevant

<a class="break-all" href="https://archive.ph/2025.05.10-072454/www.thetimes.com/comment/columnists/article/voters-are-sick-of-lectures-from-the-lanyard-class-gxbqg5zhk" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://archive.ph/2025.05.10-072454/www.thetimes.com/comment/columnists/article/voters-are-sick-of-lectures-from-the-lanyard-class-gxbqg5zhk

the landyard class is spot on as a phrase (saying that as a member of what would definitely be seen as the lanyard class)