“Why aren’t you getting changed”. Man asks female Darlington nurse this 3 times in female changeroom

And for anyone reading that thread, here are more males in the FA teams.

https://x.com/hecheateddotorg/status/1920713618749878532?s=46

Exactly.

As a disabled woman, I'm getting extremely fucked off at these blokes being chucked towards the 'mixed sex disabled toilets' as if that's the solution.

Anyway, the men don't want that. As we already know. They want to encroach on our spaces and make us feel uncomfortable.

This is a horrific story. Karen Danson is amazingly brave. I really want to understand why the BBC aren’t running her story. Almost as if women don’t matter.

Doesn't matter if some people think a woman is nasty or disagree with her views.

Doesn't matter if the man is vulnerable or has the best intentions.

Men stay out of women's spaces.

Yes. As far as the EA goes:

A woman's personal political feelings are irrelevant.

The man's personal motivations are irrelevant.

Women have the right to single sex spaces for privacy, dignity and safety.

I hope Darlington does the right thing and let the trans nurse change in a separate mixed sex disabled toilet or something like that as that seems the sensible option.

I don't. I want Darlington to tell him he's a man, and to stick with the men's changing rooms. And don't bring his sexual fetishes to the workplace.

I have utter contempt for all those people whose sympathy for female victims of sex crimes is calibrated upon their political allegiance to the male perpetrators. When Harvey Weinstein put women in the position where they had to strip in front of him or lose their jobs these people would be #MeToo-ing all over the story but turn the man into someone from their own tribe then the women become bitches for not doing what he wants.

These people don't have principles, they only have their politics.

Sorry if this has been already posted but this is Karen speaking on video.

Again, this is hard to hear. The details of her sexual assaults are horrific.

https://x.com/salltweets/status/1921484351964848258?s=46

What the fucking fucking fucking fucking fucking fuck has gone wrong in this world that ANYONE imagines that Rose being in the operating theatre for a GYNAELOGICAL operation is fine??????????

I feel the same. Words fail me.

What a truly brave woman Karen is. I hope that she sees the supportive comments here and elsewhere online. Thank you Karen and your colleagues. You shouldn't have to do this.

Funny you should mention football. Clapton FC’s women’s football team has 6 trans players
https://x.com/hecheateddotorg/status/1919972652027961691?s=46&t=MFE3h1-ZiFfww4Mj1KKWVg

This is true for many, but it's sometimes interesting to check users' posting history - plenty of clearly AGP/generally perverted males clutching their pearls at the evil terfs.

Good idea. I've thrown my words into the void that is Wes Streeting's inbox.

Absolutely terrible

that poor woman

Thing is though - and to be clear I don’t think the Darlington nurses or Sandie Peggie are - EVEN IF PEOPLE ARE BIGOTS - they are STILL entitled for single sex spaces to be single sex!

Rose …. As woman, needs at very least an “Intro to Woman behavior in woman only spaces.”

Woman don’t ask each other if/when they will undress.

Women usually assess the environment even if they undress there every day. They check for gaps in curtain, open doors, staring people. I think I speak for most if not all when I say, we are always vigilant and always vulnerable no matter our history. Not just personal body safety, but about theft and ogling pervs.
in fact, it’s not just women only spaces …. It’s every space.

They need cubicles - private change cubicles. No undressing in common areas.

Thank you for this.
The parallel between flashing as a gateway to larger offences and “we just want to pee” is really useful. Unless society calls time it will only be a few years before their an entire TRA squad in a women’s football team… there’s nowhere they won’t push into for their own purposes and don’t care about anyone else. Are the enablers completely context blind?

I agree, this woman has been subjected to torture by her employer/healthcare provider

x.com/gussiegrips/status/1921542671228686721?s=46

Reading that is horrific.

”Then he gave this smirk, this expression, it was the same one my dad had when he was doing the abuse. He could see I was uncomfortable, and he didn’t seem to care.”

That smirk is the face of a man who is getting off on his power to make her afraid and uncomfortable. He does care, he cares a whole lot that she is uncomfortable, it’s exactly what he was hoping for. The motivation behind forcing unwilling women to take their clothes off in front of him, see his genitals or receive medical care from him is EXACTLY the same as a flasher. His kick is derived from the shock, fear and discomfort he creates in his victims.

Flashing went from a bit of a joke to being regarded as a potential gateway offence to more serious sexual offences. It’s difficult to not draw parallels between the patterns of escalation identified in exhibitionist sexual offences and the escalation of TRA demands from “we just want to use women’s toilets”, then access to changing rooms and any other single sex spaces and services, then escalating to exposing themselves in these spaces, further escalation to giving intimate care, and even to coerced sexual acts with Lesbian women. All alongside the forced speech required to validate their purported womanhood, while also generating a sexual kick from the power to force compliance.

Women failed, gaslight, bullied, abused, given inferior facilities, forced to disclose trauma, driven to engaging legal representation to prevent a man who you are in an active work issue in taking part in your medical care when unconscious. Work enabled indecent exposure. The perpetrator fully backed by management and HR to the point of being given the opportunity to reeducate his victims.

I don’t understand how any decent human being could be involved in these practices and think they are equitable and justifiable. Are thousands of NHS management and HR staff delusional, misogynists or too afraid to do anything that could result in their being tarred as transphobic and then in fear for their jobs?

Is the solution here not to have male wards, female wards, and trans wards? A non binary ward perhaps, same with toilets?

I'd say both. Covers the personal and the professional.

I'll copy in my useless gobshite Labour TRA MP, too.

But he’s not allowed in there. The SC ruling says that

Transwomen are men

The transgender uk reddit has a post about this piece and they are accusing Karen of ' weaponising her trauma' or lying or being transphobic for not accepting 'Rose' in the surgery room

I think this is probably why they lost the debate in a country which is generally very much ' live and let live' re people's personal lives.

Is there anything to be gained from writing to Wes Streeting, Baroness Merron, and our own MP to ask this and to argue for a near term revision to NHS policies?

Would this be a stronger or more effective show of support for Karen than writing to her?

Unfortunately Karen did (unwillingly) glimpse his genitals. But the NHS don’t use that as a test. They are happy to take Rose solely on his word

That reads like a very accessible version of Matt Goodwin’s essay about the epistemic class. (Following is quoting self from other threads. )

Matt Goodwin describes the rise of the "epistemic class" that shapes the prevailing culture, conversation, politics, arts, policy in a way that means all that they survey is familiar to them but unrecognisable to others outside that group. This overlaps with Rob Henderson's observations about luxury beliefs for which the harms accrue to others, and not those that espouse them.

For much of the last half century, the new elite, whose families often descend from the professional and managerial classes, benefitted far more than others…
Shaped by their privileged family backgrounds, their educational qualifications, and their much greater ‘cultural capital’…the new elite hoovered up most of the gains from Britain’s embrace of hyper-globalisation and a political economy which was rebuilt around them, which both demanded and rewarded their skills.
They’ve benefitted culturally, too. After flooding into the creative, cultural, knowledge and public sector institutions, becoming a new “epistemic class” which creates, filters and determines what is or what is not acceptable or desirable within the national conversation, the new elite watched the prevailing culture be completely reshaped around their far more socially liberal values, tastes, political priorities, and interests.
Increasingly, when they’ve looked out at the institutions and what they create -the television programmes, films, adverts, books, museums, galleries, columns, and the national conversation more broadly- they’ve seen their worldview staring back at them while millions of others struggle to recognise their worldview at all.

www.mattgoodwin.org/p/rise-of-the-new-elite