“Why aren’t you getting changed”. Man asks female Darlington nurse this 3 times in female changeroom

I feel frightened knowing that an NHS Trust has not only allowed a male with known predatory behaviours to work with incapacitated female patients - but that the Trust had enabled and supported this male to be in those situations.

It is so obvious that this male was getting sexual kicks from being involved in intimate care and procedures on female patients.

When you consent to surgery, you are trusting that the staff will keep you safe and treat you with dignity and respect.

Clearly you can't trust them to protect you after all.

More hyped up drama about a transperson in a dressing room/restroom/or anywhere else on the planet. Something few people have probably even ever knowingly experienced and even far fewer having been even mildy inconvenienced by. There aren't that many of them, you know, and most of them just want to be able to get through their lives in some kind of minimal comfort.

Of course, it's highly satisfying for small-minded, nasty people to single out a very small and vulnerable group that has quite enough trials and tribulations as it is (as seen in their very high suicide rate, for example). Yes, do that, amplify any tiny thing they can, shout it from the rooftops, as an excuse to pile on and bully said small, unfortunate, vulnerable group. So smug, so satisfying. So easy. You feel so very superior to them.

It's not a good look, is it.

Thank you for standing up for women.

Thank you @GreenFriedTomato for standing up for the women in your care. Given the circumstances you were working in, I can only imagine how difficult that must have been.

I’m incredulous. HOW did the views of senior management/HR become so warped that they couldn’t see what was so obviously smacking them in the face? Rose was a man and had no place in single sex space at any point. When the vulnerability and concerns of Karen (and others) were expressed he should have been removed forthwith. I
Im sure these concerns were expressed to ‘Rose’. The fact that he wanted to persist under that justification says everything we need to know about him.
The NHS lost its mind.

I could not have put this better !!

This has made me so angry again.
I was that nurse, that had distressed patients coming to me because there was a trans male on the ward. My response was similar to the one deemed 'not appropriate' but I wasn't going to lie. I refused to gaslight these women.

We were also supposed to say there are no men on the ward and LIE to our patients.
These women had ears and eyes and they knew damn well they were men, they'd exposed their dick FFS. And I was suppose to say 'oh no, you are mistaken, only ladies here'.

'The nurse should address any anxiety the patient has and address any underlying beliefs the patient has that may be unfounded'

Unfounded?? The belief that the person wandering around the ward with his penis exposed is a man? Unfounded??

And then check if the poor man is ok? He might be terribly distressed by being called a man by some hateful bigot in the next bed.

No woman should have to go through any of this. The NHS makes me sick to my stomach and needs to be held accountable for all the damage and pain they have caused.

So angry for Karen, this is disgusting. Just fuck off and leave us alone to get changed in peace!

It looks very much like an act of calculated spite. These people are beyond unpleasant. No wonder the NHS is in such a state.

I hope the police will take action again they man known as Rose.

He is very clearly a sexual predator. Exposing his genitals to women, staring at them naked and trying to coerce them to undress.

From what @KnottyAuty and @TwoLoonsAndASprout have said about the NHS policy audits, this is Darlington HR implementation of what is effectively standard NHS HR policy.
That said, I am minded that the surgical suite scheduling was intentional and is testament to punitive motivation.

It was hard to read.

HR seems to have been woefully incompetent in this case.

I refuse to believe scheduling Rose for Karen’s operation was not fully intentional.

Unfortunately the default for employment tribunals is simply to make good any financial losses. If you're lucky, and the other side had been particularly bad, they may award (usually partial) court costs.

Punitive damages are possible, but even rarer than an NHS HR department telling a transwoman to use the men's facilities.

I can’t add much to what has already been said but just wanted to add that I am fully behind Karen and the Darlington nurses. Why this court case is still going ahead is beyond me.

I wouldn’t bother sending any letters of support for Karen to any department of Darlington Memorial Hospital. I wouldn’t trust them not to accidentally lose them.

This was never right... it should not have taken the Supreme Court Ruling for Journalists to report on it and it absolutely should not take it being reported in the press for the NHS to stand up for women.

Complain about having to read about our rampant transphobia? Or just complain about having to read about more boring feminist stuff? Your guess is as good as mine.

There's now a thread in AIBU. Hopefully it will stay there and not be moved here

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5332744-to-think-that-this-nhs-trust-hates-women?utm_campaign=thread&utm_medium=share

What the actual mediaeval fuckery did I just read?! That poor, brave woman.

I keep thinking I can't get any angrier & then

whst the flying fuck,
that is just outrageous
she can’t be scheduled somewhere else as it may hurt her feelings 🤬

I saw it in trending

Complain about what exactly. This awful scandal should be talked about nit hidden.

Because if we put them in AIBU, people complain and ask for them to be put here.

Why is this thread in feminism. Seriously these issues are too important to be hidden in a corner.

I can’t be the only one who read the Mail article and was unsettled to read ‘Rose’ works in theatre with sedated and unconscious patients.