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“Why aren’t you getting changed”. Man asks female Darlington nurse this 3 times in female changeroom

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CrocsNotDocs · 11/05/2025 06:47

More details re the Darlington nurses. I don’t know what to say. This is outrageous. Just fucking outrageous.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14698557/I-begged-bosses-not-let-trans-nurse-invaded-changing-room-intimate-operation-refused-didnt-want-hurt-feelings.html

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TheKeatingFive · 11/05/2025 17:54

BigHeadBertha · 11/05/2025 17:03

More hyped up drama about a transperson in a dressing room/restroom/or anywhere else on the planet. Something few people have probably even ever knowingly experienced and even far fewer having been even mildy inconvenienced by. There aren't that many of them, you know, and most of them just want to be able to get through their lives in some kind of minimal comfort.

Of course, it's highly satisfying for small-minded, nasty people to single out a very small and vulnerable group that has quite enough trials and tribulations as it is (as seen in their very high suicide rate, for example). Yes, do that, amplify any tiny thing they can, shout it from the rooftops, as an excuse to pile on and bully said small, unfortunate, vulnerable group. So smug, so satisfying. So easy. You feel so very superior to them.

It's not a good look, is it.

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Oh look. The one TRA dumb enough and misogynistic enough to try and defend this disgusting behaviour has joined the chat. 🙄

F.R.O my love. No difference between you and a common or garden incel.

ArabellaScott · 11/05/2025 17:52

BigHeadBertha · 11/05/2025 17:03

More hyped up drama about a transperson in a dressing room/restroom/or anywhere else on the planet. Something few people have probably even ever knowingly experienced and even far fewer having been even mildy inconvenienced by. There aren't that many of them, you know, and most of them just want to be able to get through their lives in some kind of minimal comfort.

Of course, it's highly satisfying for small-minded, nasty people to single out a very small and vulnerable group that has quite enough trials and tribulations as it is (as seen in their very high suicide rate, for example). Yes, do that, amplify any tiny thing they can, shout it from the rooftops, as an excuse to pile on and bully said small, unfortunate, vulnerable group. So smug, so satisfying. So easy. You feel so very superior to them.

It's not a good look, is it.

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Holy, holy, moly.

You'd think nobody would pop up to attack a woman who has recounted a harrowing personal story of trauma and her ordeal at work.

Yet here you are.

Genuinely stunned at you, Bertha.

RedToothBrush · 11/05/2025 17:52

BigHeadBertha · 11/05/2025 17:03

More hyped up drama about a transperson in a dressing room/restroom/or anywhere else on the planet. Something few people have probably even ever knowingly experienced and even far fewer having been even mildy inconvenienced by. There aren't that many of them, you know, and most of them just want to be able to get through their lives in some kind of minimal comfort.

Of course, it's highly satisfying for small-minded, nasty people to single out a very small and vulnerable group that has quite enough trials and tribulations as it is (as seen in their very high suicide rate, for example). Yes, do that, amplify any tiny thing they can, shout it from the rooftops, as an excuse to pile on and bully said small, unfortunate, vulnerable group. So smug, so satisfying. So easy. You feel so very superior to them.

It's not a good look, is it.

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BigHeadBertha doesn't use the NHS yet sees fit to tell us we are all wrong about the management of our National Health Service.

NEXT.

(spot the tell)

Waitwhat23 · 11/05/2025 17:52

MayMadness2025 · 11/05/2025 15:53

Complain about what exactly. This awful scandal should be talked about nit hidden.

As they always complain when these issues are discussed on AIBU or chat, I can give you an example of what typical responses from TRA's and allies would be -

'I have muted the feminism board as not to see this anti trans stuff. You've got your own space to talk about stuff. Why can Mumsnet not stop this???!!!'

They'll then pop onto the Site Stuff board and will start a thread titled (something like) 'Mumsnet, why can't you stop this??!! ' and the OP will read

'MNHQ, I cannot bring myself to see this anti trans stuff - why can't you stop them starting threads in AIBU???!!!'

It wasn't enough for them to have the FWR boards split. It wasn't enough for them for posts on the Sex and Gender board to be subject to a set of overly restrictive, board specific guidelines. It wasn't enough for Mumsnet to be subject to DDOS attacks and constant screenshot forays from Reddit.

They want to stop women talking. They can't bear that we're allowed to.

SidewaysOtter · 11/05/2025 17:48

@BigHeadBertha Oh do fuck off with that nonsense. It didn’t wash before and it doesn’t wash now.

SidewaysOtter · 11/05/2025 17:47

It is just inconceivable. All of it. The man allowed to change with women, the lack of caring that women didn’t want this, the clear motives behind a man wanting to change with women, the man in question being on the surgical team for Karen’s gynaecological surgery.

I’m so sorry that this happened to you Karen. You didn’t deserve it, any of it. You are a brave and amazing woman.

ThatCyanCat · 11/05/2025 17:42

Helleofabore · 11/05/2025 17:32

Remember!

It didn’t happen.

And if it did, it was only once.

And if it was more, it is only a few, nothing to see, just exaggeration to attack a special group of male people.

Oh… it happened again… nothing to see here. Protect the dolls!!!

It really reads like an abusers charter. But apparently, it is all about how good it looks…

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It is exactly what my abusive father would have done. Didn't happen, you're just mad and evil. Well if it did happen it was only once and you're only going on about it because you're mad and evil. Well it doesn't matter how much it happened because you're mad and evil, and what about ME AND HOW I FEEL?

Danglinglights · 11/05/2025 17:39

Theeyeballsinthesky · 11/05/2025 08:15

Me too!

im impressed really fucking annoyed that Shaun Lintern the Sunday times health correspondent who is usually all over anything and everything NHS related has studiously ignored both this story and that of Sandy Peggie

They just don’t have the balls to pick it up. Oh wait, they do have balls they are just too afraid. Isn’t it funny how they leave this quietly on the side to brush away?

I cannot believe what I have read. It’s abominable. Another poster said she was reviewing the NHS trust policy and it’s in every single one too.

This is disgusting. Can we do anything? Are we just left to be ignored. There will be more like this. Poor Karen. My heart goes out to her and all other women who are in this ridiculous and tragic situation.

Helleofabore · 11/05/2025 17:32

Remember!

It didn’t happen.

And if it did, it was only once.

And if it was more, it is only a few, nothing to see, just exaggeration to attack a special group of male people.

Oh… it happened again… nothing to see here. Protect the dolls!!!

It really reads like an abusers charter. But apparently, it is all about how good it looks…

ThatCyanCat · 11/05/2025 17:31

borntobequiet · 11/05/2025 17:19

So you are saying that something unpleasant doesn’t matter because it might only happen to a few women. And some transpeople are nice, and misunderstood.
Also, we are nasty bigots for not wanting that unpleasant thing to happen to anyone and trans people are the most marginalised and oppressed people around, hence suicidal.

None of what you say is logical, sensible or true.

He knows. Just as he knows the suicide stats are fake, the threat and damage are real and the protections are necessary. He knows it's a safeguarding scandal, he knows the harm is real and wider than we know since so many similar cases won't be heard as the women were successfully intimidated.

He is regurgitating all the debunked and worthless crap partly to wind us up and partly because he's furious that he can no longer crap on women and cheer on their abuse while being lauded as a liberal hero for it. If you ever wondered why the BigHeadBerthas of the world got so invested in this issue, that's why. It's actually a good sign that they feel so unsettled by it all. They should do. Everything they said wouldn't happen is happening so now they can only say it isn't happening enough to matter and doesn't matter any time it does anyway.

He's circling the drain.

HermioneWeasley · 11/05/2025 17:30

GingerBeverage · 11/05/2025 16:15

I refuse to believe scheduling Rose for Karen’s operation was not fully intentional.

Yes, I’ll bet it was a punishment to put her in her place for complaining

GreenFriedTomato · 11/05/2025 17:29

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countrysidedeficit · 11/05/2025 17:28

yourhairiswinterfire · 11/05/2025 17:21

Won't somebody think of the poor vulnerable men, being bullied by evil women refusing to get their clothes off in front of them, in a women's changing room said men have no right to be in.

It's very incel, isn't it.

yourhairiswinterfire · 11/05/2025 17:21

BigHeadBertha · 11/05/2025 17:03

More hyped up drama about a transperson in a dressing room/restroom/or anywhere else on the planet. Something few people have probably even ever knowingly experienced and even far fewer having been even mildy inconvenienced by. There aren't that many of them, you know, and most of them just want to be able to get through their lives in some kind of minimal comfort.

Of course, it's highly satisfying for small-minded, nasty people to single out a very small and vulnerable group that has quite enough trials and tribulations as it is (as seen in their very high suicide rate, for example). Yes, do that, amplify any tiny thing they can, shout it from the rooftops, as an excuse to pile on and bully said small, unfortunate, vulnerable group. So smug, so satisfying. So easy. You feel so very superior to them.

It's not a good look, is it.

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Won't somebody think of the poor vulnerable men, being bullied by evil women refusing to get their clothes off in front of them, in a women's changing room said men have no right to be in.

borntobequiet · 11/05/2025 17:19

BigHeadBertha · 11/05/2025 17:03

More hyped up drama about a transperson in a dressing room/restroom/or anywhere else on the planet. Something few people have probably even ever knowingly experienced and even far fewer having been even mildy inconvenienced by. There aren't that many of them, you know, and most of them just want to be able to get through their lives in some kind of minimal comfort.

Of course, it's highly satisfying for small-minded, nasty people to single out a very small and vulnerable group that has quite enough trials and tribulations as it is (as seen in their very high suicide rate, for example). Yes, do that, amplify any tiny thing they can, shout it from the rooftops, as an excuse to pile on and bully said small, unfortunate, vulnerable group. So smug, so satisfying. So easy. You feel so very superior to them.

It's not a good look, is it.

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So you are saying that something unpleasant doesn’t matter because it might only happen to a few women. And some transpeople are nice, and misunderstood.
Also, we are nasty bigots for not wanting that unpleasant thing to happen to anyone and trans people are the most marginalised and oppressed people around, hence suicidal.

None of what you say is logical, sensible or true.

Judashascomeintosomemoney · 11/05/2025 17:17

BigHeadBertha · 11/05/2025 17:03

More hyped up drama about a transperson in a dressing room/restroom/or anywhere else on the planet. Something few people have probably even ever knowingly experienced and even far fewer having been even mildy inconvenienced by. There aren't that many of them, you know, and most of them just want to be able to get through their lives in some kind of minimal comfort.

Of course, it's highly satisfying for small-minded, nasty people to single out a very small and vulnerable group that has quite enough trials and tribulations as it is (as seen in their very high suicide rate, for example). Yes, do that, amplify any tiny thing they can, shout it from the rooftops, as an excuse to pile on and bully said small, unfortunate, vulnerable group. So smug, so satisfying. So easy. You feel so very superior to them.

It's not a good look, is it.

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Are you quite alright? I feel so very superior to you, that’s for sure.

JenniferBooth · 11/05/2025 17:13

On GB News now

TattiePants · 11/05/2025 17:11

That was a heartbreaking read. Poor Karen having to out herself but what an amazing woman she is. I’m so sick of women being forced to compromise their dignity and safety to go along with this charade.

FlakyCritic · 11/05/2025 17:11

BigHeadBertha · 11/05/2025 17:03

More hyped up drama about a transperson in a dressing room/restroom/or anywhere else on the planet. Something few people have probably even ever knowingly experienced and even far fewer having been even mildy inconvenienced by. There aren't that many of them, you know, and most of them just want to be able to get through their lives in some kind of minimal comfort.

Of course, it's highly satisfying for small-minded, nasty people to single out a very small and vulnerable group that has quite enough trials and tribulations as it is (as seen in their very high suicide rate, for example). Yes, do that, amplify any tiny thing they can, shout it from the rooftops, as an excuse to pile on and bully said small, unfortunate, vulnerable group. So smug, so satisfying. So easy. You feel so very superior to them.

It's not a good look, is it.

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You clearly didn't read the article. This male was exposing his genitals to a vulnerable woman, and SMIRKING while doing so.

If he identified as a 'c1s' man, you'd say this is wrong. Why is it any less wrong?

These a re predatorial males, males are 50% of the population, not a small population, and as shown, they are far far from vulnerable. In fact, brainwashed posters like you @BigHeadBertha have made them into a Sacred Caste.

Perhaps next time actually read the article, because coming on to spew your ignorance and defend a male exposing his penis to women while smirking, is not a good look.

PS Evidence proves they have no higher a suicide rate than the rest of the population, you were brainwashed to fall for a dangerous lie and myth because you were too ignorant and ill-informed to research properly. But do keep promoting Suicide Ideation and defending males weaponising suicide to emotionally manipulate in order to get what they want.

AhBiscuits · 11/05/2025 17:10

BTW, this is Rose.

“Why aren’t you getting changed”. Man asks female Darlington nurse this 3 times in female changeroom
Whooowhooohoo · 11/05/2025 17:09

GingerBeverage · 11/05/2025 16:15

I refuse to believe scheduling Rose for Karen’s operation was not fully intentional.

Picturing a meeting with a rainbow lanyard admin and Rose:

Rainbow lanyard: Rose dear, how can we make this right?
Rose: Oh, please let me watch her get her womb taken out …. Then she will know how it feels to be missing your womanhood!!!
Lanyard: good idea, let’s make it happen!

GreenCandleWax · 11/05/2025 17:09

Shadowsunray · 11/05/2025 06:50

Very pleased this information is getting out to the public. The behaviour of the NHS has been disgraceful.

And the Union too! - unbelievable!

Theeyeballsinthesky · 11/05/2025 17:09

BigHeadBertha · 11/05/2025 17:03

More hyped up drama about a transperson in a dressing room/restroom/or anywhere else on the planet. Something few people have probably even ever knowingly experienced and even far fewer having been even mildy inconvenienced by. There aren't that many of them, you know, and most of them just want to be able to get through their lives in some kind of minimal comfort.

Of course, it's highly satisfying for small-minded, nasty people to single out a very small and vulnerable group that has quite enough trials and tribulations as it is (as seen in their very high suicide rate, for example). Yes, do that, amplify any tiny thing they can, shout it from the rooftops, as an excuse to pile on and bully said small, unfortunate, vulnerable group. So smug, so satisfying. So easy. You feel so very superior to them.

It's not a good look, is it.

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Oh fuck off

having zero empathy for a woman who was sexually abused standing up for her legal rights because you’re such a manic TRA you’ve had every ounce of compassion extracted from you

not a good look is it?

Helleofabore · 11/05/2025 17:08

BigHeadBertha · 11/05/2025 17:03

More hyped up drama about a transperson in a dressing room/restroom/or anywhere else on the planet. Something few people have probably even ever knowingly experienced and even far fewer having been even mildy inconvenienced by. There aren't that many of them, you know, and most of them just want to be able to get through their lives in some kind of minimal comfort.

Of course, it's highly satisfying for small-minded, nasty people to single out a very small and vulnerable group that has quite enough trials and tribulations as it is (as seen in their very high suicide rate, for example). Yes, do that, amplify any tiny thing they can, shout it from the rooftops, as an excuse to pile on and bully said small, unfortunate, vulnerable group. So smug, so satisfying. So easy. You feel so very superior to them.

It's not a good look, is it.

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And please, do weaponise suicide rates, that is also not a 'good look'.

Helleofabore · 11/05/2025 17:07

BigHeadBertha · 11/05/2025 17:03

More hyped up drama about a transperson in a dressing room/restroom/or anywhere else on the planet. Something few people have probably even ever knowingly experienced and even far fewer having been even mildy inconvenienced by. There aren't that many of them, you know, and most of them just want to be able to get through their lives in some kind of minimal comfort.

Of course, it's highly satisfying for small-minded, nasty people to single out a very small and vulnerable group that has quite enough trials and tribulations as it is (as seen in their very high suicide rate, for example). Yes, do that, amplify any tiny thing they can, shout it from the rooftops, as an excuse to pile on and bully said small, unfortunate, vulnerable group. So smug, so satisfying. So easy. You feel so very superior to them.

It's not a good look, is it.

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"It's not a good look, is it."

I think you rather are not a good judge of what is a 'good look' if you cannot see how this female nurse, Karen, has been harmed by her workplace.