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Roberta Cowell - trans racing driver

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ArabellaScott · 08/05/2025 07:51

Cowell currently being celebrated by PinkNews.

An interesting interview with him here in the Sunday Times, 1972.

www.lizhodgkinson.com/pages/journalismArticle/interview_with_transsexual_roberta_betty_cowell

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lnks · 08/05/2025 09:06

The title of the article is “Interview with transsexual Roberta (Betty) Cowell”. It also says that he “re registered as a woman”. So it is very clear that he is a man.

teawamutu · 08/05/2025 09:05

Selfish, lying, sexist asshole turns out to be lying for own gratification.

Here's Tom with the weather.

PriOn1 · 08/05/2025 08:43

The Wikipedia page is interesting. In effect, he had to get a doctor to say he was intersex because that was the only way he could legally have vaginaplasty.

“Cowell then presented herself to a private Harley Street gynaecologist and was able to obtain from him a document stating she was intersex. This allowed her to have a new birth certificate issued, with her recorded sex changed to female.”

It also has another interesting foreshadowing of WPATH as he first had orchiectomy carried out by a FtM transitioner. When those who transition become doctors, they are very willing to go beyond what’s acceptable to allow others to do the same.

PriOn1 · 08/05/2025 08:30

ThisOpenMauveLurker · 08/05/2025 08:19

Interesting. Sad he dumped his offspring though. Wonder if had XXY Klinefelter’s, though I suppose he would’ve said that instead of just XX…unless he’s psychologically removed that as part of his “sex change”.

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It’s just possible they were not actually his offspring, of course, though why he wouldn’t say that is odd. It’s not like he respected his wife and children in any way.

He certainly doesn’t look like a woman in the photograph on the article about his daughter.

DuchessofReality · 08/05/2025 08:23

Jigsaw PHSE lessons used to have use him as a case study for a year 6 lesson about equality/discrimination. I have heard this has changed recently. The Wikipedia page was pretty explicit about the surgery.

DrJump · 08/05/2025 08:21

I can't believe just how long the media has allowed these men the platform to lie and lie lie. Just awful.

ThisOpenMauveLurker · 08/05/2025 08:19

Interesting. Sad he dumped his offspring though. Wonder if had XXY Klinefelter’s, though I suppose he would’ve said that instead of just XX…unless he’s psychologically removed that as part of his “sex change”.

PriOn1 · 08/05/2025 08:08

An increasing number of MtF transitioners are making false claims about having DSDs.

If you can lie about one thing and have no shame, you can lie about others too.

Liars will use any lie that they believe will advantage them. As women are pushing back more about men in their spaces, more men will begin to create elaborate stories about why that shouldn’t apply to them.

ArabellaScott · 08/05/2025 07:58

Here's an interview with his daughter.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/real-life-stories/my-sex-change-spitfire-pilot-6693411

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ArabellaScott · 08/05/2025 07:56

Cowell claimed to have a DSD. It's unclear what condition this might have been, given that Cowell apparently fathered two children but claimed to have had XX chromosomes.

'The operation was the sensational news story of the decade and each time in the last 21 years when there’s a sex-change story in the news, Roberta’s story is retold. She says there is a lot more to say: for instance there are some white lies about her ‘marriage’ to put right: but the most important message could be to those thinking of following her. It would be: DON’T.

“I was a freak. I had an operation and I’m not a freak any more. I had female chromosome make-up, XX. The people who have followed me have often been those with male chromosomes, XY. So they’ve been normal people who’ve turned themselves into freaks by means of the operation.

“At Hammersmith hospital the surgeons carry out about two operations a month. Many of those people will regret the operation later. There have been attempted suicides. They don’t change sex, as everyone knows, because the operation doesn’t alter the chromosomes.

“Many people thought they could copy me. But it’s like admiring someone without legs, like Bader, and having your legs off to be the same. Or it’s more like seeing a thalidomide child, and having an operation to be the same.”

Liz Hodgkinson, who’s writing the book with her, says Betty Cowell (as Roberta’s known to friends) is like no man or woman she’s ever met. “She’s a very masculine lady.”

In Richmond her home is cluttered with pilots’ helmets, high-frequency radios, models of planes and racing cars. She’s logged 1,600 hours as a pilot (recently she flew at Mach 2 twice the speed of sound). “Driving is what I do best. Jet planes don’t have personality the way racing cars do.” On the other hand she says she’s fond of music, and does needlework and tapestry. Picking up an example: “This is petit point. (Laughs). Well, grand point.”

In the book she will have her say on the changes in the sexual roles in the last 21 years. She doesn’t approve of the Permissive Society and she doesn’t welcome Women’s Lib. She certainly hopes the trend towards Unisex has stopped. It’s unhealthy, unnatural. “My experience shows that men and women are so completely different as to be almost different species.”

But she doesn’t feel she can say what it’s like to be a man, except in the social sense, because even at school she was physically a woman. Her breasts developed like a woman’s and she held them down with an elastic support. “I consciously tried to develop my muscles to compensate, so I was good at sport. I’d have thumped anyone who tried to send me up. But I always hated little boys, and I still see a lot of the little boy in the racing fraternity, especially when there’s a dinner night.”'

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