Womankind Worldwide - help please

https://www.beyondfgm.com/
this charity works exclusively to bring an end to fgm and child marriage in the Pokot area of Kenya, it partners with grassroots women and has good community engagement

If donate to an organisation in order to support women then I want my money to go to supporting women, no one else.

Not men who want to be women. Not orphaned boys. Not disabled men. Not overworked female donkeys. Women.

I think it’s become another bastardised phrase, I agree with you that that is what intersectionalism ought to mean (e.g. if you are a black, disabled lesbian you face potential discrimination on four fronts rathe than the single front you’d face if you were a white, non-disabled straight woman). But it seems that it is now code for “including some male people in your definition of women, and excluding a few women too for good measure”.

They are already supporting women and girls all over the world and that is their main focus. It seems ridiculous to withdraw support because a few trans people might be helped. I'm not withdrawing my support over it but we're all different.

Many women here want to put their money into supporting other female people around the world as female people are often treated like shit, and are vulnerable to violence because of their sex. They are also vulnerable to lack of healthcare in pregnancy.

Transwomen’s problems are not the same, so what’s the point of the forced teaming? (Except as a virtue signalling gesture). They don’t need period products, contraception, pregnancy care, childbirth care. Girls are routinely excluded from education because of their sex.

The notion that we must be inclusive of transwomen over being practical and effective in working for safety of females is a first world luxury belief. This is about feminism (for female people) and not just a way to signal how “inclusive” we are.

That is not in any way transphobic. But transwomen have different needs and should campaign for those via a different route. Women’s charities need to be able to use clear language to label and discuss women’s needs to remain focussed and effective in their campaigns and work.

And ditto for race, or poverty, or disability, etc, all things that affect women differently from how they affect men. Even gender reassignment affects women very differently from how it affects men, socially as well as physically.

We don't say, starving men are worse off than middle-class women so intersectional feminism must prioritise poverty-stricken men? Or do intersectional feminists say that?

Why does "intersectional feminism" mean supporting men - biological men - who think they're women?

I thought "intersectional feminism" just meant recognising all the different factors that affect women. To simplify - if you tackle sexism and homophobia separately then you might end up with a solution that works for straight women and gay men and doesn't help lesbians at all. So when two factors intersect (like sex and sexual orientation) you have to look at the intersection of both.

So why does anyone think this means that transwomen are women, or that they belong in women's spaces?

What have I failed to understand?

Don’t be so silly. Wanting to spend MY money supporting women isn’t transphobic, it’s feminist. It’s an important point. I want all my money going to the people Womankibd said they support.

Why don’t you support them instead?

being a feminist means a commitment to learning (and unlearning), an openness to grow. It means recognising your privilege, then using it to advocate for those who have less of it than you.

I think they are confusing being a feminist and being a nun.

For comparison

www.sbvm.org.uk/vocations/

“It requires a person to let go of their own vision for life and like the Blessed Virgin Mary, to say yes to God, embracing what God offers in the beautiful and challenging following of Our Lord in the Religious Life.”

I cancelled my DD and told them why by email when I realised a few years ago what their stance was.
I sometimes comment on their Facebook posts with the same message.

Transphobic is such an over used phrase - it has lost all power and has turned into a bit of blah blah bleat, so off you trot with your little repent motherfuckers shakey stick.

There are other organisations that help women only. So yes, I'm perfectly happy to overlook whatever good another charity does if it means my donations are going to men. I want my money to help women, not men. It's not transphobic for the simple reason that trans identified males are not women

No different to donating to a children's charity and it transpires the funds are also going to adults. Adults are not children.

How to say you don’t understand targeted giving without saying you don’t understand targeted giving.

Hamlin Fistula does important work, solely for women:
hamlinfistulauk.org

How to say you haven’t got a clue what you are talking about without saying you haven’t got a clue what you are talking about. It’s men that is the issue. OP wants to support a charity for women. Not women and some men. I doubt there would be an issue if it catered for women only (including transmen).

How to say you're transphobic without saying you're transphobic 🙄 You're happy to overlook all the good they do because of one policy? You'll be hard pressed to find an organisation that says they support everyone except trans people

I'm sticking with Plan International, despite that rather confusing page, because you can directly sponsor a girl through their education and most of their work is in that area. I also support the Linda Norgrove Foundation as they are still doing good practical work on the ground in Afghanistan directly targetted at women and girls.

That article is incoherent. Do people not use dictionaries anymore?

Remember that feminism is a journey; a lens through which to view the world. While it’s OK not to have all the answers, to Womankind, being a feminist means a commitment to learning (and unlearning), an openness to grow. It means recognising your privilege, then using it to advocate for those who have less of it than you.

No, it doesn't. Feminism literally means advocating for women's rights. It's not some kind of feminine "be kind" banner.

Not sure what to make of Plan International. Their information sounds a little bit muddled.

https://plan-international.org/srhr/lgbtiq-inclusion/

If you vote with your wallet you have to let them know why the wallet left.

@SchoolGuidanceQ

If you're interested in supporting something in the UK there is the wonderful

Yeah, bollocks to that. (Sorry, I'm not good at measured and persuasive emails!)

I thought this was their stance, which is why I've donated to the Linda Norgrove Foundation instead, for Afghanistan.

"Why do you refer to ‘gender-based violence’ and not ‘sex-based violence’?
Gender-based violence refers to violence towards an individual because of their gender. It manifests in many forms – from sexual harassment to psychological violence – and is rooted in gender inequality. "

Bollocks to that too!

They’ve been like this for ages. They’re ‘intersectional’ feminists, and their feminism intersects with men

https://www.womankind.org.uk/celebrating-diversity-lbtq-rights-within-womens-movements/