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In echoes of Posie Parker’s billboard, the telegraph’s billboard faced complaints

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EweSurname · 06/05/2025 17:20

The telegraph have been running adverts on billboards saying “should athletes born as men be muscling in on women’s sports?”

People have complained about the language. Will be interesting to see if it’s treated any differently to Posie’s ‘adult human female’ ad

https://archive.ph/wip/qSU6v

I can just hear this in Harrop’s voice (although this is just my imagination and not attributed to him in the article at all) “The phrase ‘muscling in’ is no accident,” a spokesperson for the group continued. “It’s a dog whistle designed to paint trans women as aggressive invaders. It’s the same rhetoric that’s been used historically to justify exclusion, violence, and moral panic.”

In echoes of Posie Parker’s billboard, the telegraph’s billboard faced complaints
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Bluebootsgreenboots · 06/05/2025 18:30

Right, so according to Harrop, when discussing women’s sport, no one may make any reference to men’s greater muscle mass, even though it’s highly relevant to the discussion and is a key factor in male advantage. Got it.
Did he also complain about the Sun headline (‘They think it’s all ovaries. Well it is now!’) as it alluded to men’s ovarylessness? (Is there a medical term for that? Anovarian?)

akkakk · 06/05/2025 18:16

myplace · 06/05/2025 17:24

We really need clarity about DsDs in sport next.

I think the clarity is already there...
All with DsD are male or female and that is already an accepted biological / medical outcome...

How that affects their ability to take part in / compete at sports, it is no different to anyone else - born male or female, their DsD may be a hindrance in the same way that someone born with a disability / or something as simple as poor stereo vision etc. will have a challenge... on the other hand it may make no difference...

their competing class is simple - they will still be man or woman and need to take part in sport for their biological born sex.

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 06/05/2025 18:11

"Additionally, the complaint argues that the Telegraph’s slogan, “we speak your mind,” implies that the statement is “universal” and that the majority of the public is in “agreement with its stance.”

It's true they are, thanks for acknowledging it. 😁

AsTreesWalking · 06/05/2025 18:08

LizzieSiddal · 06/05/2025 17:44

”The phrase ‘muscling in’ is no accident,” a spokesperson for the group continued. “It’s a dog whistle designed to paint trans women as aggressive invaders. It’s the same rhetoric that’s been used historically to justify exclusion, violence, and moral panic.”

Does anyone else want to scream and be a bit sick when they hear the term “moral panic”. It’s just a phrase to stop any debate. In fact is it the new “No Debate”?!

Yes. The term 'moral panic' makes me want to scream. It's just used to signal 'wrongspeak'

MoistVonL · 06/05/2025 17:48

Isn’t a woman a female human of any age under English law? And therefore a man is likewise of any age.

But they used Men because it makes their point more clearly. We’re not talking about 5 year olds playing together, we’re talking about post-puberty blokes (regardless of gender identity).

tartyflette · 06/05/2025 17:45

This could surely be easily fixed by changing the word "men" to "male".

LizzieSiddal · 06/05/2025 17:44

”The phrase ‘muscling in’ is no accident,” a spokesperson for the group continued. “It’s a dog whistle designed to paint trans women as aggressive invaders. It’s the same rhetoric that’s been used historically to justify exclusion, violence, and moral panic.”

Does anyone else want to scream and be a bit sick when they hear the term “moral panic”. It’s just a phrase to stop any debate. In fact is it the new “No Debate”?!

TheOtherRaven · 06/05/2025 17:39

Dog whistle - inconvenient truth

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EweSurname · 06/05/2025 17:29

PriOn1 · 06/05/2025 17:22

What makes them think this has anything to do with transwomen?

Asking for a friend…

Haha well quite.

Born as men isn’t accurate as you say @IHeartHalloumi It’s not like any woman births a fully grown man, but I forgive the inaccuracy as a way to combat all the other obfuscation eg trans woman or male bodies etc. It’s probably the safest way to point out they are men competing with women.

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IHeartHalloumi · 06/05/2025 17:24

How is one born as a man? Surely a male is born a boy and grows up to be a man. (I may have missed the point)

myplace · 06/05/2025 17:24

We really need clarity about DsDs in sport next.

PriOn1 · 06/05/2025 17:22

What makes them think this has anything to do with transwomen?

Asking for a friend…