Page 2 | Urgent - write to your MP today about back door self ID data bill tomorrow

ScrollingLeaves · 2025-05-06T08:13:41+00:00

I am not sure if there has been a thread about this but I just saw this from Sex Matters: https://sex-matters.org/posts/updates/urgent-action-email-your-mp-today-on-the-data-bill/

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ScrollingLeaves · 07/05/2025 17:57

Is it all over now? I was not free to watch. Thank. You all for your reports.

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LonginesPrime · 07/05/2025 16:44

MP Allison Gardner (Labour) just said (at 16:30) that she supports the accurate recording of sex to protect both women and trans people, but she said NC21 seems like a slippery slope as she was worried if we focus on those two protected characteristics, it would be a slippery slope and she might have to carry around her baptism certificate to prove her religion, and she worries about how she would prove her sexuality.

Way to miss the point.

TheOtherRaven · 07/05/2025 16:41

The ridiculous comment by the woman MP that implies - although she stops short of saying - feelings are more important than accuracy of data or any of the protections it allows.

Ffs.

FigRollsAlly · 07/05/2025 16:35

Kudos to Dr Ben Spencer for putting forward this amendment, it’s interesting that he’s an NHS psychiatrist.

FigRollsAlly · 07/05/2025 16:30

Labour’s GC MP Tonia Antoniazzi in that clip is saying that there are discussions about this but given that her colleague had just raised how sad and hurt trans people are by the Supreme Court ruling will these discussions go anywhere and will it be too late?

EweSurname · 07/05/2025 15:15

https://x.com/SexMattersOrg/status/1920119607139950600

"Digital verification could be used to access single-sex services, so it needs to be correct. Failure to act today will bring in self-id by the back door." Shadow Minister of State for
@SciTechgovuk

@DrBenSpencer
speaks to amendment N21 in the
@HouseofCommons
#DataBill debate.

https://x.com/SexMattersOrg/status/1920119607139950600

LeftieRightsHoarder · 07/05/2025 15:02

I emailed anyway. Let’s hope some of these captured MPs start waking up to reality.

LeftieRightsHoarder · 07/05/2025 14:52

Does anyone know if it’s too late today?

ItsCoolForCats · 07/05/2025 14:39

IwantToRetire · 07/05/2025 02:17

The Tories have been accused of launching a “dystopian” attack on the trans community by proposing changes to the way personal information is collected by the state.

Shadow technology minister Ben Spencer has tabled an amendment to the government’s Data (Use and Access) Bill which would force public bodies to collect data based on someone’s sex at birth rather than their gender identity.

That would mean organisations like the NHS effectively having to ignore gender recognition certificates – the documentation which allows trans people to update their legal gender on personal documents.

Labour’s huge Commons majority means the Tory amendment is virtually guaranteed to be rejected.

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/tories-accused-of-dystopian-attack-on-trans-community_uk_681a0f9fe4b035302f245a44

So we've had the Sullivan review now, which has highlighted the detriment that not collecting accurate data on sex has, particularly when it comes to healthcare, yet articles like this are making the amendment out to be really sinister and nefarious 😐 Honestly, we have such a long way to go with this. It's depressing.

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ScrollingLeaves · 07/05/2025 12:26

I cannot see what time this will be debated.

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ToThineOwnSelf · 07/05/2025 12:11

Done. Hope it’s not too late today!

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ScrollingLeaves · 07/05/2025 12:05

That would mean organisations like the NHS effectively having to ignore gender recognition certificates – the documentation which allows trans people to update their legal gender on personal documents.

Meaning the NHS could give them the correct treatment.

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IwantToRetire · 07/05/2025 02:17

The Tories have been accused of launching a “dystopian” attack on the trans community by proposing changes to the way personal information is collected by the state.

Shadow technology minister Ben Spencer has tabled an amendment to the government’s Data (Use and Access) Bill which would force public bodies to collect data based on someone’s sex at birth rather than their gender identity.

That would mean organisations like the NHS effectively having to ignore gender recognition certificates – the documentation which allows trans people to update their legal gender on personal documents.

Labour’s huge Commons majority means the Tory amendment is virtually guaranteed to be rejected.

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/tories-accused-of-dystopian-attack-on-trans-community_uk_681a0f9fe4b035302f245a44

Tories Accused Of 'Dystopian' Attack On Trans Community

"Anyone remotely interested in living in a free, fair and tolerant society should oppose this," one Labour MP said.

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/tories-accused-of-dystopian-attack-on-trans-community_uk_681a0f9fe4b035302f245a44

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ScrollingLeaves · 06/05/2025 21:22

An extra spur to take the lead from Sex Matters and write to your MP asking them to back the amendment -

there has been an opposite campaign from tras’ quarters asking readers to write against the amendment.
www.thepinknews.com/2025/05/05/why-you-should-be-worried-about-the-uk-data-bill-amendment/

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Hyperiaistheworst · 06/05/2025 21:21

Done - thank you. I had read the first few posts of the other thread and naively thought it was a done deal. Added my voice, even though my MP is a TWAW TWIT.

Sibilantseamstress · 06/05/2025 20:53

I wrote to my MP. On our side, but don’t know if motivated!

MrsPeterHarris · 06/05/2025 20:22

I’ve just written to my MP. Thanks Op!

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ScrollingLeaves · 06/05/2025 19:41

Yes, see how many MPs understand why the truth is important; and how many who, on the contrary, want the kind of official lying and obfuscating that caused so many problems in the first place - some because they endorse that, some because they have never thought much about it and don’t understand why it is wrong.

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GCEpileptic · 06/05/2025 19:12

Bump! It wld be interesting to see outcomes.

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ScrollingLeaves · 06/05/2025 18:21

ChoccyJules · 06/05/2025 16:57

What happens when MPs are already known to be captured? Are they supposed to represent their constituents or just forget they ever got the email? Mine's LibDem...

I am not sure and have wondered that too.

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ScrollingLeaves · 06/05/2025 18:18

I have seen there is another thread on this.

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Manderleyagain · 06/05/2025 17:31

I have emailed mine. Labour. Not totally captured judging by previous correspondence.
I expect I am too late if she wasn't already planning to go to the debate, but it does tell them we are interested and watching what happens.

Bashitcrazy · 06/05/2025 17:25

Done

Bowednotbroken · 06/05/2025 17:25

Done! Thank you for the reminder and the link.

ChoccyJules · 06/05/2025 17:06

I sent it anyway, with a paragraph explaining why it's not anti-kind, it's pro safety, and that my peak came with the Girl Guides stuff which was personal to our family.