“Why are TERFs so well organized compared to us?”

Malcolm Clark is an excellent investigator and journalist on this subject. I have paid for a subscription as he is so good.

You're right. Sorry if you feel we have appeared dismissive.

This is indicative of the echo chamber that "No Debate" has created

There is no knowledge, at all, that 59% agree with he recent SC decision, and only 18% disagree - that's a huge discrepancy and one that TRAs don;t know because they literally and metaphorically stick their fingers in their ears and scream.

You could try answering on Reddit if you dare, in fact encourage them to come here and debate.

It's the echo chamber like Reddit that tells them they are in the majority when quite clearly they are not. mad.

Shame JKR didn't go up into space with Katie Perry and the others.. She would've been called an AstroTERF.

The "bored middle aged housewives whose husbands are closet gays fucking young boys" thing is just an old misogynistic stereotype designed to invalidate women (and pulls in some handy homophobia too).

Somehow, when it suits them, they always know who the women are!

He also did one about Let Women Speak previously.

Thanks for posting that film of the The Laughing Auditor. Really interesting.

I saw a similar Youtuber, Wesley Winter, get a similar treatment which was really eerie. He goes to protests and asks people why they have come out. I thought he asked good questions - and to start with he gets some good answers but eventually the reaction turns nasty:

I don't think anyone has an issue with housewives (other than TRAs), it's the bored part. Unless you're wealthy enough to employ cleaners, nannies, lawn boys etc. etc. I highly doubt any housewife is "bored" in the sitting around doing nothing sense. I shared my experience as a single working mum to illustrate that I'm effing busy, not to distance myself from being a housewife. Being a SAHM is an incredibly demanding and important role in society and nobody is looking down their nose at that part - at least they shouldn't be!

That's an interesting read thank you. I especially like this comment of Malcolm's re: the trans movement:

"Denying the truth about yourself is good training for denying the truth in general"

Terf secret weapon, village hall dishwashers, eat your hearts out lawn boys.

ThatCyanCat · Today 07:26

Oh! I recognise that film! It's the one about the great white, which identified as a basking shark and had definitely had the tooth operation.

Gums, wasn't it?

I know. Imagine the washing up.

I think a lot of these people have cluster B personality disorders and this kind of behaviour goes with the territory.

You have clearly gone to extreme lengths to disguise your facism! How radical are you?
😂

Some do undoubtedly, but for the younger ones I doubt they even realise they are doing it. It's more like women bring a new concept to their attention, subconsciously they recognise it and realise it's bad, and it later emerges as a projection on to us because we are all bad things to them.

A sort of subconscious version of the playground "I'm rubber, you're glue, whatever you say bounces off me and sticks to you"

Thank you for the link, this looks like a very interesting, very thorough piece of research by Malcolm Clark - also very long, so I'll read it in full ASAP.

Rewriting history to 'trans' it is one of the underhand tactics used by TRAs, to give the false impression that 'there have always been transgender people, get over it'.

It looks like Clark as done a great job of looking back at the history how the T attached itself to the LGB.
Unfortunately, it will probably be waved away as transphobic lies - the trans movement operates in such a post-factual environment that anything, even the Cass Review, can be dismissed as the work of bigots.🙄

It’s a cope.

I mostly lurk, but have plucked up some courage to post here. I was just thinking about the accusation that we are all bored housewives. Even if we were all housewives, it doesn't follow that we are therefore wrong.

As someone who, due to various complications in my life, is a SAHM and housewife, it's been interesting to read everyone distancing themselves from that accusation as though through housewifery, one's opinion and thoughts are less worthy. I'm guilty of it myself at times often starting my sentences with 'I'm just a housewife and even I...'

It was just something I noticed.

50 people to a cell would be totally cray-cray, can you imagine the organisational damage if a cell that big (and them being women, that networked) got infiltrated or taken down? The old lady groups I'm in all top out at a couple of dozen, with sub-cells of 4-6.

The knitters, the quilters, the crochet mob, the 'I'll just sit and chat' people (very useful), the make-the-tea crew. We are many, we are strong, but 50 would be too much.

No. It’s all hyperbolic claims about erasure.
I don’t think they could summarise that women want to preserve their own single sex spaces and to uphold safeguarding for women and children.

They don’t see that many women don’t give a shit about upholding gender norms for themselves or anyone else, so long as biological sex differences and disparities are at all times respected.

And they are definitely willing to not tackle the misogyny, homophobia, and specifically lesbophobia that is central in their own regressive politics.

Why are they so convinced by this narrative that every GC person is a sad middle aged, middle class house wife who has been sheltered her whole life?

I’m in my 20’s, disabled, and grew up extremely poor working class.

I’m an atheist and my best friend is a gay man (who feels the same way).

I’m sure they’d argue I was lying though.

Especially not with bananas not envy

As a middle aged husband, I can confirm we are all at the golf course, fucking the lawn boy. Every last one of us. It's like the last days of Rome on the 11th hole.

You make a valid point about TERFs infighting - the Tunnocks Teacakes v. Tunnocks Wafers split got quite ugly at one point.

Just don't mention warm Weetabix.

Because it's rank

Have just read a long thread by Malcolm Clark on X, who looks a lot at the history of this whole…thing. The homophobia was baked in, right from the get-go:

https://nitter.net/TwisterFilm/status/1480382480595230721#m